finlo Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, 2112 said: IOMG and many of its cheerleaders on here, will have you believe that there is no poverty, the island is booming, money is no object and the island is paved with gold, and is the land of milk and honey. It is if you're in the tent pissing out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 52 minutes ago, cissolt said: Some fiery exchanges around the appointment of Mr Shimmins to the board at the steam packet. Mr Thomas suggesting that Treasury appointed a friendly face in the role who would do their bidding. As some suggested on here. Whilst others declared it all above board and without subterfuge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, 2112 said: IOMG and many of its cheerleaders on here, will have you believe that there is no poverty, the island is booming, money is no object and the island is paved with gold, and is the land of milk and honey. 2 4 6 8 Who do we appreciate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, cissolt said: Some fiery exchanges around the appointment of Mr Shimmins to the board at the steam packet. Mr Thomas suggesting that Treasury appointed a friendly face in the role who would do their bidding. To be fair that's sort of the idea when a major shareholder appoints someone to a Board. The problem is that is not what they are saying they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, cissolt said: Mr Thomas suggesting that Treasury appointed a friendly face in the role who would do their bidding. Of course they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 59 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: To be fair that's sort of the idea when a major shareholder appoints someone to a Board They appoint someone who is going to represent the interests of the shareholders. In this case they are likely to appoint someone who does not represent the interests of the taxpayers, but instead represents the interests of the <fill in the blanks>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Too many 'Shimmins', perhaps they intended to appoint this guy? https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/politics/govt-ministers-failed-to-declare-an-interest-239144 "Angela Main-Thompson OBE concluded former Minister John Shimmin and current Minister Laurence Skelly breached the government code. Both deny knowingly failing to declare an interest." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 32 minutes ago, Two-lane said: They appoint someone who is going to represent the interests of the shareholders. In this case they are likely to appoint someone who does not represent the interests of the taxpayers, but instead represents the interests of the <fill in the blanks>. Well quite, but it's hardly unknown for corporate shareholders to to do the same and appoint people who will look after the interests of those running the company rather than the eventual owners. What I also find interesting is how more and more these appointments seem to be restricted to two main groups of people - former civil servants and former politicians. Plus 'fly-ins' those living in the UK who can be relied on to have no local knowledge or commitment, but who are very experienced in sitting on Boards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 34 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: What I also find interesting is how more and more these appointments seem to be restricted to two main groups of people - former civil servants and former politicians. Plus 'fly-ins' those living in the UK who can be relied on to have no local knowledge or commitment, but who are very experienced in sitting on Boards. "Proven steady hands on the tiller"....? 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 4 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Well quite, but it's hardly unknown for corporate shareholders to to do the same and appoint people who will look after the interests of those running the company rather than the eventual owners. What I also find interesting is how more and more these appointments seem to be restricted to two main groups of people - former civil servants and former politicians. Plus 'fly-ins' those living in the UK who can be relied on to have no local knowledge or commitment, but who are very experienced in sitting on Boards. They did mention that the chief finance officer had to be excused due to a conflict of interest, was it a conflict with the person being interviewed? Do the board need a banker who was also on the board of govts new favourite hotel the comis. Our spending there has gone through the roof in recent years.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat. Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 On 7/16/2024 at 10:45 AM, Non-Believer said: Wouldn't you think that in the "oldest Parliament in the world", a basic democratic institution such as Hansard to record the goings on would be maintained as a priority? You would. But Tynwald isn't the oldest parliament in the world. It's the oldest continuous parliament depending on how you define 'parliament'. Tynwald was established around 979CE by which time Iceland's parliament had been going for about fifty years. The King of Norway disbanded the Althing for a considerable time but no one ever found a way to shut down Tynwald once they got going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, Expat. said: You would. But Tynwald isn't the oldest parliament in the world. It's the oldest continuous parliament depending on how you define 'parliament'. Tynwald was established around 979CE by which time Iceland's parliament had been going for about fifty years. The King of Norway disbanded the Althing for a considerable time but no one ever found a way to shut down Tynwald once they got going. You wouldn't give up that salary easily either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 On 7/17/2024 at 7:49 PM, cissolt said: Do the board need a banker who was also on the board of govts new favourite hotel the comis. Our spending there has gone through the roof in recent years.. And such a favourite venue that they'd prefer to use it rather than Govt's own venue apparently.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: And such a favourite venue that they'd prefer to use it rather than Govt's own venue apparently.... Since we used the commis as a prison it's become governments number 1 venue. Do we have another sefton scenario? The last conference cost £31,000 including £6800 for the villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: And such a favourite venue that they'd prefer to use it rather than Govt's own venue apparently.... I think that IOMG would prefer these kind of events at venues like this, amongst other things, it will stop the riff raff from coming into the venue. Getting to the Comis involves a bus ride and some walking. The Villa Marina was easy to access. Overall, I think the IOMG conference is a complete waste of time and money down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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