KERED Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 I wouldn't want to be in these Fraudster's shoes when Alfie and the other Tynwald boys and girls get back from their hols in a few month's time! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 IOM Newspapers have just got this story online ………….. but they aren’t allowing comments - can you imagine what people will post. Nothing yet in the NPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, KERED said: I wouldn't want to be in these Fraudster's shoes when Alfie and the other Tynwald boys and girls get back from their hols in a few month's time! Alfie and Co are no better than the fraudsters, they are elected fraudsters who have allowed this happen and have aided and abetted criminal activity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 When something looks too good to be true is always is 🥲. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, The Phantom said: So much for the population targets and the 500 or so immigrants from China and the Philippines. I'd assumed that the Philippinos would be mostly in the Healthcare sector! The figures I gave for visa numbers in an earlier post were based on nationality, not where the application was made from (which is what Edge had actually asked, which suggest she might have known something). Presumably the ones involved in the scamming side of this would need to be native Chinese speakers, but processing them through another country might hide the information from the Chinese authorities: Anyway here's those nationality figures again: Filipino 453 Chinese 339 South African 326 Indian 149 Ghanaian 103 Nigerian 82 Pakistani 69 Zimbabwean 53 Indonesian 51 Kenyan 51 Turkish 45 Malaysian 40 Those are work visa figures issued from 01/10/2021 to 19/04/2024 and will include some renewals from those who were already on the Island. They also include 258 Worker (Seasonal) Migrant Visas, which was the scheme close mysteriously at the end of last year. That's not to say there weren't also scams involving the healthcare sector, because we know there were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 A little embarrassing. Do we just let companies like this set up here with no initial and continuing due diligence? Or are we so happy they chose the island to move to that we roll out the red carpet regardless and hope for the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Damn Chinese. I already feel like I want another news story already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Calls for Tynwald to urgently meet on the Mannin Line. So far, nothing from the CM. However, it is doubtful the content of that article is a surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 This is the damming quote from the BBC article - My bold and underline "This is the first such case we've seen of one of these [pig-butchering] scam operations setting up in a Western country," says Masood Karimipour, South East Asia representative at the UN Office on Drugs and Crime. Trying to stop the scams is like a "game of whack-a-mole", he says, and it is a battle that "organised crime is currently winning" as criminals engage in what he calls "jurisdiction shopping" where they perceive there to be legal loopholes and little oversight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted August 23 Author Share Posted August 23 51 minutes ago, KERED said: I wouldn't want to be in these Fraudster's shoes when Alfie and the other Tynwald boys and girls get back from their hols in a few month's time! It’s great to see the ten plus team of IOM Governments PR specialists all over this though managing our global reputation so that the IOM doesn’t get permanently tarnished. It’s great that we have so many proactive people managing the media messaging 24/7 so that these sort of things don’t blow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, mad_manx said: I cannot understand why they relocated the scam call centre staff here?? Surely that will increase overheads. Couldn't they have done the same scam with overseas call centres and the company incorporated here.. ?? Or was it some combined financial + immigration scam? It’s a bit weird. These types of scams usually operate more in Asia. Cambodia, Myanmar, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, Amadeus said: It’s a bit weird. These types of scams usually operate more in Asia. Cambodia, Myanmar, etc. Licenced in a jurisdiction surely means a shit load more scamming profit due to additional credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Manx Radio is covering it on Moaning Line. Unfortunately it’s Phil doing it so it’ll be full of ‘where’s me glasses’ and ‘err the text machine isn’t working’ . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, FANDL said: It’s great to see the ten plus team of IOM Governments PR specialists all over this though managing our global reputation so that the IOM doesn’t get permanently tarnished. It’s great that we have so many proactive people managing the media messaging 24/7 so that these sort of things don’t blow up. They're used to sheep falling off a cliff or another delay on the Mannanan. Not too sure their skillsets cover international fraud, criminal mafia and immigration scams. Best to say nothing and let people speculate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 6 minutes ago, x-in-man said: Manx Radio is covering it on Moaning Line. Unfortunately it’s Phil doing it so it’ll be full of ‘where’s me glasses’ and ‘err the text machine isn’t working’ . The sound of a man bent over a row of spuds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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