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School Mobile Phone Bans


Bill1977

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By all accounts some kids just can’t put them away and when you ask for their phone it’s like getting drugs off them, which according to their brain, it pretty much is!

The most vulnerable kids are the ones who are on them the most, and they are the ones that could do without the mental disruption that a smart phone provides. It seriously affects their learning too.

It needs schools to set a strategy of communicating to parents that they strongly discourage children bringing their phones to school at all. We managed centuries of sending children to school without them and the school office is always available for phone calls home.

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9 hours ago, Jarndyce said:

A Faraday Café: the latest coffee shop idea - when you walk in, your phone stops working…

I’d love to have a device that stops smartphones from working. That would be heaven!

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11 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said:

It doesn't work though. Some kids have two phones on them; the cheap one to hand in and the phone they use all day to text their mates, play games and photograph teachers.     

Best to thrash all those phones out of them. Maybe give staff gloves so they can look up kids arses for hidden phones as well? 

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13 hours ago, Bosley said:

The 3fm story says “the move follows feedback from parents, staff and education professionals”

So when will the board or education or the school be publishing all this feedback it’s allegedly had? 

'Board of education'? How old are you?

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13 hours ago, Sign in said:

On arrival at school, the children put their switched off phones into sealed named bags in a secure area and don't get them back till the end of the school day.

Those using their phones within school time is an issue which is best left to those who deal with consequences for their ideas.

Have you thought about the logistics of this in a school with 12 or 13 hundred pupils? Where will the staffing and the secure space come from? How long would this take at the start and end of each day, eating into time when kids should be learning? Then there are the inevitable mix-ups, thefts etc. And what about those who arrive late? how long would the secure area be staffed? Who bears the cost of all this? And then there will still be those who do not comply, or whose parents disagree and try to insist on the child keeping the phone for special reasons, and go to their half-wit MHK, or mount a legal challenge...

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25 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said:

Have you thought about the logistics of this in a school with 12 or 13 hundred pupils? Where will the staffing and the secure space come from? How long would this take at the start and end of each day, eating into time when kids should be learning? Then there are the inevitable mix-ups, thefts etc. And what about those who arrive late? how long would the secure area be staffed? Who bears the cost of all this? And then there will still be those who do not comply, or whose parents disagree and try to insist on the child keeping the phone for special reasons, and go to their half-wit MHK, or mount a legal challenge...

But apart from all that you think it's a good idea?

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There's no discipline at schools and if they try to impose some discipline parents of the feral kids just kick up a fuss then wonder why their kids are feral. 

Just leave them to it. The kids that want to learn and try to do well will do those that don't won't.

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21 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

There's no discipline at schools and if they try to impose some discipline parents of the feral kids just kick up a fuss then wonder why their kids are feral. 

Just leave them to it. The kids that want to learn and try to do well will do those that don't won't.

That’s an interesting perspective. By all accounts the battle of getting the phones off the buggers doesn’t do much good for staff’s stress levels as following simple instructions is hard never mind getting them to hand over their pride and joy when they get they phone out unnecessarily.

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18 minutes ago, Bill1977 said:

That’s an interesting perspective. By all accounts the battle of getting the phones off the buggers doesn’t do much good for staff’s stress levels as following simple instructions is hard never mind getting them to hand over their pride and joy when they get they phone out unnecessarily.

Look at the fuss made last year when the head of Ballakermeen basically asked that the students act like decent human beings. 

 

It's a lost battle. For those that just want to disrupt others kick them out and concentrate on the kids that want to be there and contribute

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1 hour ago, Harry Lamb said:

'Board of education'? How old are you?

Actually it still (sort of) exists.  The old elected Board of Education was abolished about 20 years ago (it's surprisingly difficult to get dates for all this) and replaced by something called the Education Council.  Naturally this didn't involve anything as vulgar as elections, just the usual 'trusties' being appointed to advise the Department (ie agree to everything the civil servants propose, no matter how ridiculous).  Actual in-depth knowledge of education may be considered a disadvantage.  The current membership is exactly as you'd expect with the usual ex-MHKs, retired civil servants/LA officials/charity types.  And inevitably Carol Glover:

Education Council Members

  • Mrs Malgorzata Simpson
  • Mr Alex Downie
  • Mrs Barbara Brereton
  • Mrs Kelly Quaye
  • Mrs Carol Glover
  • Mrs Janet Bailey
  • Mr Peter Whiteway
  • Mr Joff Whitten

It only seems to meet quarterly, but its members also supply a lot of the governors to school boards (as the old Board of Ed used to).

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Absolutely. It was got rid of because it could, and did hold people to account. The likes of Pat Corrin used to be elected by larger numbers of people than many MHKs and so had real authority and a mandate - no 'minister' was going to stand for that. Many people think it still exists, not realising it was replace by a bunch of stooges and usual suspects. That being said, at one time the board had 24 members, many senile and some quite mad, so perhaps they thought it duplicated the Keys.

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