HeliX Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Anyone said: Sorry ., red card for you on the Dutch guy as I don’t think he should be allowed to compete . But this is a different issue. Blokes competing in female events. Blokes going into female spaces. Nope. Sorry . Let me know why you think it’s ok. If JK Rowling is so invested in women's safety why is she utterly silent on a child rapist being in the Olympic village while kicking up absolute hell about someone she perceives as trans who by all accounts was born with a vagina? I think it's okay for Imane Khelif to be in women's spaces because to the best of my knowledge she is a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, HeliX said: Not sure about that, considerably smaller than all the male boxing athletes! If she has an unfair advantage it is, obviously, unfair - but all the Twitter posts claiming she's trans are prety damaging and unfair. Look mate , did you see her/his body build? It was impressive . As a male even I would work hard for that. No female boxer could achieve that build. Maybe you could because you have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, HeliX said: If JK Rowling is so invested in women's safety why is she utterly silent on a child rapist being in the Olympic village while kicking up absolute hell about someone she perceives as trans who by all accounts was born with a vagina? I think it's okay for Imane Khelif to be in women's spaces because to the best of my knowledge she is a woman. Maybe because unlike you she sees no need to comment on everything - you’re just clutching at straws . Until now I’ve not brought up the Dutch guy - have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 15 minutes ago, HeliX said: She's passed the required tests to be allowed to compete. From my understanding she was born as a woman with female genitalia. That's all we really know at this point. I'm not sure about that. From Wikipedia. The Olympic rules differ from the IBA one's. In March 2023, she again reached the final of the IBA Women's World Boxing Championships, but was disqualified shortly before the gold medal bout for failing to meet eligibility criteria. The Algerian Olympic Committee stated that Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It was later reported that the disqualification was due to high levels of testosterone in her system.[12][13] According to International Boxing Association (IBA) president Umar Kremlev, DNA testing of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes and were thus excluded from the sports events".[14] Khelif made an appeal before the Court of Arbitration for Sport but later withdrew it,[4] making the IBA decision legally binding.[15] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 17 minutes ago, HeliX said: She's passed the required tests to be allowed to compete. From my understanding she was born as a woman with female genitalia. That's all we really know at this point. Look at her / him , build of a male , I’d be scared to fight her / him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, Anyone said: Look mate , did you see her/his body build? It was impressive . As a male even I would work hard for that. No female boxer could achieve that build. Maybe you could because you have no clue. This is the build you think no female boxer could achieve? Amanda Serrano: Laila Ali: Claressa Shields: etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 JK Rowling has a long history of supporting women’s rights. And a long commitment to massively funding with her own money many charitable organisations . Just like you eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, Chinahand said: I'm not sure about that. From Wikipedia. The Olympic rules differ from the IBA one's. In March 2023, she again reached the final of the IBA Women's World Boxing Championships, but was disqualified shortly before the gold medal bout for failing to meet eligibility criteria. The Algerian Olympic Committee stated that Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It was later reported that the disqualification was due to high levels of testosterone in her system.[12][13] According to International Boxing Association (IBA) president Umar Kremlev, DNA testing of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes and were thus excluded from the sports events".[14] Khelif made an appeal before the Court of Arbitration for Sport but later withdrew it,[4] making the IBA decision legally binding.[15] The only source for the XY thing is the Russian news agency Tass, can't see it coroborated anywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, HeliX said: This is the build you think no female boxer could achieve? Amanda Serrano: Laila Ali: Claressa Shields: etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Reuters report: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/two-disqualified-failing-meet-eligibility-criteria-world-champs-2023-03-26/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Helix some how blocked me quoting. Anyway his picture evidence was rubbish. Fit women are women and will look good. Men are men and these boxers are men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Reuters report: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/two-disqualified-failing-meet-eligibility-criteria-world-champs-2023-03-26/ Which doesn't mention any chromosomes. I have to operate under the assumption that the regulating bodies probably know more about what is and isn't fair in the sports they regulate than I do. But that's neither here nor there really, what I'm objecting to is the pilliorying of Imane Khelif by people claiming she's a man who have, on the whole, absolutely 0 subject expertise and 0 insider knowledge of Khelif's chromosomes, testosterone levels, or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, Anyone said: Helix some how blocked me quoting. Anyway his picture evidence was rubbish. Fit women are women and will look good. Men are men and these boxers are men. I didn't block you from doing anything. What a weird accusation. Did you watch the new season of Gladiators? Sheli McCoy is a woman: Did you watch The Rock's TV show that I forget the name of? Dani Speegle is a woman: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Yup , I agree they are women and work hard to achieve their best in a fair enviroment. The Algerian is clearly a male - just ask the female Italian boxer she thumped with such force she quit after 43 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, Anyone said: Yup , I agree they are women and work hard to achieve their best in a fair enviroment. The Algerian is clearly a male - just ask the female Italian boxer she thumped with such force she quit after 43 seconds. The Italian boxed poorly. Imane has been beaten many times by other women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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