ian rush Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 It would really help if people could appreciate that seeking now to impose a constraint on future land use which might prejudice a potential future strategic need is not a current proposal for a new airport at Jurby. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Airport should have been there to begin with. Less foggy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Part of the problem is scare stories such as this. Trying to convince people of a massive rise in sea level if a sheet of ice melts. Most of it is floating and already displacing its own weight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Cambon said: Part of the problem is scare stories such as this. Trying to convince people of a massive rise in sea level if a sheet of ice melts. Most of it is floating and already displacing its own weight. Ice sheets can be on land as well as on the sea you know. As they are to a large extent in Greenland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Ice sheets can be on land as well as on the sea you know. As they are to a large extent in Greenland. Yes, but they claim an ice sheet seven times the size of the UK (a small island in the North Atlantic), could cause sea levels worldwide to rise by seven metres. Unless the ice sheet is several hundred kilometers thick, it is simply not going to happen. Absolute clap trap! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 This was written in 1871 by Edward Whymper: " for,before the time that the glaciers had shrunk to so great an extent, the steep snow-slopes above mentioned, in all probability, did not exist ; but, most likely, the glaciers led by very gentle gradients up to the summit ; in which case the route would have formed the natural highway between the two places. It is far from impossible, if the glaciers continue to diminish at their present rapid rate,j* that the Theodule itself, the easiest and the most frequented of all the higher Alpine passes, may, in the course of a few years, become somewhat difficult ; and if this should be the case, the prosperity of Zermatt will probably suffer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 48 minutes ago, Cambon said: Part of the problem is scare stories such as this. Trying to convince people of a massive rise in sea level if a sheet of ice melts. Most of it is floating and already displacing its own weight. I know it’s already been pointed out that this is bollocks, but I need to point it out again. This is bollocks. The Greenland ice sheet is on land. It’s called Greenland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, ian rush said: It would really help if people could appreciate that seeking now to impose a constraint on future land use which might prejudice a potential future strategic need is not a current proposal for a new airport at Jurby. It is not a proposal for a new airport, but it is a proposal to restrict buildings in an area so that it is possible for it to be used as an airport. The time to protest is as soon as is possible - i.e. now. "You do not need to worry because something may never happen" is one way to look at it. The other way is to realise that it is sensible to oppose this at the earliest opportunity. I might even say that there is a strategic need to do so. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 No more motorsports? Well bugger that then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Cambon said: Yes, but they claim an ice sheet seven times the size of the UK (a small island in the North Atlantic), could cause sea levels worldwide to rise by seven metres. Unless the ice sheet is several hundred kilometers thick, it is simply not going to happen. Absolute clap trap! Here's some calculations if you'd like to dispute any of it: https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/estimating-glacier-contribution-to-sea-level-rise/ which confirm the 7m figure for Greenland alone Of course most of the water is locked up in the Antarctic ice sheet and that would put sea level up 58m. Of course global warming means both would eventually go if unchecked, though Greenland would be first. Paradoxically it would also make the British Isles colder, because it would stop the Gulf Stream flowing. (To simplify things I don't think these calculations allow for another factor from global warming which is that the water in the oceans will take up more space as it gets warmer and expands). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, Gladys said: But is it a plan, or keeping an option for the future should circumstances require it? Is that not sensible? An awful lot if hysteria about, which could be dispelled by a clear statement of the intent. apparently the space port is going to be in andreas next to a 200 acre canabis farm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Mr. Sausages said: I know it’s already been pointed out that this is bollocks, but I need to point it out again. This is bollocks. The Greenland ice sheet is on land. It’s called Greenland. So why is Iceland called Iceland and not Greenland , which is not very green. It’s icier than Iceland but then Iceland is not very green either. Maybe we need to find the right names for all countries that describe them best. Ireland for example would be better named as ‘Chip on both shoulders land’. England could be ‘Dickhead Land’ and so forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, Anyone said: So why is Iceland called Iceland and not Greenland , which is not very green. It’s icier than Iceland but then Iceland is not very green either. Maybe we need to find the right names for all countries that describe them best. Ireland for example would be better named as ‘Chip on both shoulders land’. England could be ‘Dickhead Land’ and so forth. good thinking , scotland could be 'speech impediment land' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, WTF said: good thinking , scotland could be 'speech impediment land' Even better ‘Buckieland’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 49 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Paradoxically it would also make the British Isles colder, because it would stop the Gulf Stream flowing. The Gulf Stream flows, partially anyway, and the wind blows from the SE because the earth rotates. And if the water gets colder, more icebergs will be created which will reflect more sunlight and cause a global cooling. I think I would rather put a few quid on an alien invasion. So the aliens land in Jurby and say to the locals "Take me to your leader"... it's a frightening thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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