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16 hours ago, ian rush said:

Climate change isn’t the big issue with Ronaldsway. Runway length.

For a regional airport there is no issue with the runway length, the big issue is with the approach lighting ! However we would rather fanny about with masterplans and development than try and run what we have ! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the CS appointments have no wish to manage a small regional airport, that is no good for the CV however a mega project in the pipeline looks ace !!!!!!!

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You watch the amount of off island travel drop in this new post COVID world due to the cost of it and the general unrest in the rest of the world making it less desirable…and the government want to invest in a new airport 🤔

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2 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

From 17 years ago. And a stream of other unrealised promises stretching back further than that to the mid-eighties at least.

Mind, we did give them a prison.

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3 hours ago, NoTailT said:

Whatever happened to the super expensive masterplan Jezza had drawn up for redevelopment of the airport? Attached for those who forget..

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Nice, pity half the people who pay for the place aren't even on the map ! He was insane, really !

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31 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

I see Hartford have been building up there though.

Circa £100k less for a new build 4 bed than elsewhere so providing good options to those young families willing to consider the move.

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20 minutes ago, Mercenary said:

Circa £100k less for a new build 4 bed than elsewhere so providing good options to those young families willing to consider the move.

Realistically though if you have lived in Douglas for your entire life and all friends and family are there, moving to Jurby is quite isolating in terms of the services and amenities available there. Hence, the £100k drop. 

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1 hour ago, Maugholdmafia said:

Realistically though if you have lived in Douglas for your entire life and all friends and family are there, moving to Jurby is quite isolating in terms of the services and amenities available there. Hence, the £100k drop. 

On the other hand massive compo when your house is flattened for the new runway.

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https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/no-meetings-over-airfield-plan-says-doi/

 

The Department of Infrastructure says it has no information on meetings about proposed changes to Jurby Airfield.

Two Freedom of Information requests were submitted to the department after the site's possible future expansion was exposed in the draft plans for the North and West.

But in its response the DOI says it doesn't have any information about meetings help in the last three years to discuss the scheme.

And in a second FOI answer, it says it doesn't have details about who drew up the plans, when they were commissioned or when they were completed.

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16 minutes ago, lfc84 said:

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/no-meetings-over-airfield-plan-says-doi/

The Department of Infrastructure says it has no information on meetings about proposed changes to Jurby Airfield.

Two Freedom of Information requests were submitted to the department after the site's possible future expansion was exposed in the draft plans for the North and West.

But in its response the DOI says it doesn't have any information about meetings help in the last three years to discuss the scheme.

And in a second FOI answer, it says it doesn't have details about who drew up the plans, when they were commissioned or when they were completed.

It's even odder than that.  Because there were actually four FoI requests.  One (ref: 4021790) was to Cabinet Office and got the following response:

The name of the organisation who have provided / undertaken the work on drafting the plans for the runway.
Airports Division, Department of Infrastructure.

The professional qualifications held by the person / persons who drew up the plans.
While our aim is to provide information whenever possible, in this instance the Cabinet Office does not hold the information that you have requested.

A copy of the Terms of Reference which were provided to the person(s) / organisation who drew up the plans.
The Cabinet Office does not hold the information.

The date the instruction was given to the relevant person(s) / organisation to commence work on the plans.
The Cabinet Office does not hold the information.

The date that the plans were supplied to IOM Government by the organisation who undertook the drafting of the plans and if there were any revisions to the plans from the original version the dates that each revision was supplied.
On 19 January 2023 Cabinet Office received a (.dwg) file of the areas required for safeguarding and imported the data onto the Infrastructure Constraints Map 1bN. This was a follow up submission by Department of Infrastructure to its original response to the consultation on the Draft Area Plan for the North and West (submitted to Cabinet Office on 10 October 2022). There were no revisions after this date.

But when the same questions were also put to the DoI they got this response (ref: 4024705):

While our aim is to provide information whenever possible, in this instance the Department of Infrastructure does not hold or cannot, after taking reasonable steps to do so, find the information that you have requested. For further information relating to the subject of your request, please see FOI request 4028485 ‘Proposed Runway Extension and \ or New Runway Extension at Jurby’

The response to the later is:

There is currently no development proposal for a runway extension at Jurby, but rather a safeguarding proposal to extend the protection of 'airspace' for a 2km runway only, which has been included as part of the strategic North and West Draft Area plan published by the Cabinet Office. The Director of Isle of Man Airport clarified the reasons around the extension which was published on the Draft North and West Plan inquiry page which I have provided a link for you to access below.

Pages 2-4: https://nwinquiry.gov.im/media/zlsh4aon/cod-23-jurby-airfieldsafeguarding.pdf

Currently, there are no associated risks or impact on wildlife as this extension refers to only the zoning of airspace around the Airport.

In relation to justification of spend given to replace the existing airport, how the capitol project would be funded, planned stages and the mentioned assessments above, these will all need to be assessed should a formal proposal ever be brought forward.

So the DoI literally appears not to know what it is doing.

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