Dirty Buggane Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Maybe its for the MHK's/civil service private airline service, a couple of Lear Jet's for government personal only usage. This way they can travel when they want to wherever they want, most likely sold to them(mhk's) under cost savings and carbon neutrality. Don't laugh these lot are so gullible they believe everything the civil service whisper in their ear and end up thinking it was their own idea originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 On 7/28/2024 at 4:30 PM, doc.fixit said: Maybe they are making sure te runway is available again for when the next war starts soon? You might be right. A lot has happened since February 2022 and it wouldn't surprise me if this is being driven by the UK MOD. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9750/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 18 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Yes, they resurfaced the Clenagh Road so lawyers wouldn't take the sumps out of their sports cars while they were travelling to the prison for client business. They promised the Jurby population an economic boom when legal offices etc opened and further service and retail industry around them. Then they extolled the virtues of videoconferencing, saying that nobody would actually need to travel anyway. But Jurby did get a new medical centre out of it. At the cost of its only pub. And at a cost of an even then eye-watering £2.5m 32 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: You might be right. A lot has happened since February 2022 and it wouldn't surprise me if this is being driven by the UK MOD. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9750/ Skunk works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I thought today was April Fools having seen the story on the NPM, with plans by the DoI to increase the length of the runway at Jurby. From the NPM - A public inquiry into the Draft North and West Area Plan unveiled proposals by the Department of Infrastructure to increase the size of Jurby Airfield. Area Plan documents show an extension to the runway– which would make it roughly the size of an international airport. Under the draft North and West Area Plan, Jurby Airfield had been provisionally zoned for an extra 2.5km of runway. If the extension was approved in the plan, it could also impact the nearby villages of Andreas and Ramsey – a number of houses would be affected, and it would also cut through farmland. The extra runway length would make it roughly the size of Liverpool John Lennon Airport. Head of Conservation at Manx Wildlife Trust, David Bellamy, voiced his concerns about the protection of nature in the area. He said the site is an Area of Special Scientific Interest and it cannot be both an airport and a nature reserve: A public meeting has now been organised by Jurby Commissioners about the plans for the airfield next month. It’ll be held on the 12th August in the Parish Hall. It’s understood Airport Director Gary Cobb, Chief Minister Alf Cannan and Minister for Enterprise Tim Johnson will all be there – Mr Cannan and Mr Johnston are the MHKs for the areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) On 7/28/2024 at 7:36 PM, madmanxpilot said: It is all very curious. [...] If you look at that map it's clearly based on some sort of future water level prediction based on elevation - you can see the blue bits at bottom and right where the Lhen Trench is showing overflowing. The current runways at Ronaldsway are about 6m above sea level, while Jurby is around 25m. Though the usefulness of an airport there may be compromised by the fact that by that stage Jurby will be a separate island. Edited to add: That may also explain the odd shape as they're avoiding the predicted wet bits. Edited July 30 by Roger Mexico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Is this so bigger jet's can land and increase the population, if so bang goes the net zero footprint. Also a back entry yo the UK as they pass through border control here. The only thing would scupper the master plan is with the red tape the cs will bring in it will take three weeks to clear customs. Longer if you have more than hand luggage. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheCourse Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) On 7/27/2024 at 11:15 PM, Passing Time said: Given it was built for fully laden bombers to take off from, it should have been the main airport . Edited July 30 by RoundTheCourse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Dirty Buggane said: Is this so bigger jet's can land and increase the population, if so bang goes the net zero footprint. Also a back entry yo the UK as they pass through border control here. The only thing would scupper the master plan is with the red tape the cs will bring in it will take three weeks to clear customs. Longer if you have more than hand luggage. 😁 Offshore internment and immigration clearance. Why let £1Bn go to Rwanda when we are 70 miles away from the UK coast and could ship them in, in under an hour by plane? We could milk that sort of model for decades to balance the books. Sure that our civil servants wouldn’t mind Jurby going North African if it was going to pay their pensions for the next 20 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 14 minutes ago, FANDL said: Offshore internment and immigration clearance. Why let £1Bn go to Rwanda when we are 70 miles away from the UK coast and could ship them in, in under an hour by plane? We could milk that sort of model for decades to balance the books. Sure that our civil servants wouldn’t mind Jurby going North African if it was going to pay their pensions for the next 20 years. Along with the South African recruitment office for workers that I was informed exists a couple of days ago 🤫 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: If you look at that map it's clearly based on some sort of future water level prediction based on elevation - you can see the blue bits at bottom and right where the Lhen Trench is showing overflowing. The current runways at Ronaldsway are about 6m above sea level, while Jurby is around 25m. Though the usefulness of an airport there may be compromised by the fact that by that stage Jurby will be a separate island. Edited to add: That may also explain the odd shape as they're avoiding the predicted wet bits. Ronaldsway is currently 35 feet above mean sea level, Jurby is about 80 iirc. A quick skeet through a number of scientific looking pages on the interweb suggests that sea levels are expected to rise between 1 and 3 feet by 2100. As it has been previously mentioned that this project is being considered to protect against the effects of climate change amongst other things, I can only think that they mean rising sea levels in mentioning that. I call BS. My personal opinion is that unless there is some reason that is not being mentioned for this project to be on the cards (MoD?) then this would be the vanity project of all vanity projects. You could extend the runways at Ronaldsway, put in Cat 2&3 approaches, and do all the other things that are needed to bring the place to the required standard for a tiny fraction of the price (10%?) that this Jurby project would cost the GMP. Of course, if someone else was picking up the tab and we were getting a brand new facility for free, a different opinion would be held! Edited July 30 by madmanxpilot 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Skunk works I was thinking along similar lines, drone and unmanned stuff development and all that. It'd be ideal for unmanned express air cargo, say Blackpool to Jurby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 12 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: It'd be ideal for unmanned express air cargo, say Blackpool to Jurby. With a 2.5km runway? What are they going to use for drones? Dated today: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/our-homes-would-be-demolished-for-isle-of-man-runway-extension-709030 "The airports division says development at Ronaldsway is constrained by the size of the site and is at risk from rising sea levels." They could not make the 5 million per year passengers (or whatever it was), so they need a new scheme to spend money on. If sea levels rise by 35 ft, an airport will not be the only problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, madmanxpilot said: Ronaldsway is currently 35 feet above mean sea level, Jurby is about 80 iirc. The weather app on my phone has the location and altitude of the weather station. It's 52ft. What's the expert opionion on here? Lengthen Ronaldsway airport runway or start new at Jurby ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Poppins Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, lfc84 said: The weather app on my phone has the location and altitude of the weather station. It's 52ft. What's the expert opionion on here? Lengthen Ronaldsway airport runway or start new at Jurby ? Why do we need to lengthen the runway? Are we expecting Emirates or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 What has everyone seen that indicates that this is anything other than a contingency to keep the area reserved should the need arise in the future? No doubt the meeting on 12 August will shed (a little) more light on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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