WilDDog Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Stoning Ian Huntley to death or burning him alive or slowly torturing him to a long and hideously painful demise is going to do nothing to stop more of his ilk doing the same sort of thing time and again. It would save an awful lot of taxpayers money though eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 It would save an awful lot of taxpayers money though eh? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If we had the death penalty then I would find it hard to condemn the actions of murderers as I would be supporting one (the state). What price a clear conscience? Worth every penny. IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Stoning Ian Huntley to death or burning him alive or slowly torturing him to a long and hideously painful demise is going to do nothing to stop more of his ilk doing the same sort of thing time and again. It would save an awful lot of taxpayers money though eh? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It may, but it would destroy any chance there might be to discover a way to prevent such things happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Stone him! I presume you mean Huntley and not P.K. This is a very difficult issue, because in a way it is hard to argue against the emotion - the gut reaction of people (myself included) that Huntley should be severely punished; that he doesn't deserve to live; and that we need to get him back for what he has done. It is a natural reaction because humans are an animal that fight to protect not only our own young, but the "pack's" young. Yet, this is not the RIGHT thing to do because - 1. The justice system isn't infallible. 2. Death, however painful, is an escape for him - why did Shipman, and West take their lives and Huntley attempt it. 3. I believe there is a lot to learn from studying these people. We may never get a truely foolproof solution, or it may take hundreds of years, but we have got to try. If we can eventually answer some of the following questions, even if we can only grope partially towards an answer - maybe we can implement a better strategy - a. Is there an underlying genetic, mental, personality or enviromental cause to this extreme deviancy. b. When do the early signs first materialise. c. Can we spot them. d. Are there any interventions that we can make with someone displaying these traits early in life. I don't know if this is possible, but if we don't at least try we'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Stone him! I presume you mean Huntley and not P.K. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmmmm, now that is a difficult one...........I'll get back to you on that one! Only joking, PK! If we wanted to punish you we could lock you in a room with Elton John, George Michael and Dale Winton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I think he'd rather be stoned! In fact so would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilDDog Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 People who are guilty and sentenced for despicable crimes such as this shouldn't have all the mod cons like televisions, cd players, video players, dvd players and tea and coffee making facilities to hand in their cells, for lots of lifers it's like a hotel scenario. The only difference with them and us, is they can't just walk out the door. I know what you're saying "let them live with the crime they've committed" but the Innocent people who's lives they've taken are dead and their innocent families might as well be as they are destroyed forever. Monsters like Huntley are just that, you can probe their minds as much as you want. I still say get rid of them, then and only then, you will know they aren't a threat to anyone elses children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Only joking, PK! If we wanted to punish you we could lock you in a room with Elton John, George Michael and Dale Winton! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No Cheggars then? Phew!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 No Cheggars then? Phew!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who??? I'm lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 keith cheggwin fat bloke off the telly.... ex alcoholic did a stint on ch5 now on gmtv or sommit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 He's not gay though, is he??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 wouldn't have a clue don't think so but you just don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Maybe PK knows something we don't????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Scurrilous rumour abounds! Basically I can't stand the man. He and Chris Evans frequently make me wonder if Charles Darwin might have got evolution all wrong.... Edited to add that Cheggars was once married to fellow presenter Maggie Philbin. Completely failing to see the irony in their situation she left him when he developed a drink problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 People who are guilty and sentenced for despicable crimes such as this shouldn't have all the mod cons like televisions, cd players, video players, dvd players and tea and coffee making facilities to hand in their cells, for lots of lifers it's like a hotel scenario. The only difference with them and us, is they can't just walk out the door.I know what you're saying "let them live with the crime they've committed" but the Innocent people who's lives they've taken are dead and their innocent families might as well be as they are destroyed forever. Monsters like Huntley are just that, you can probe their minds as much as you want. I still say get rid of them, then and only then, you will know they aren't a threat to anyone elses children. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Their punishment is the loss of their liberty. Does it really matter whether they have TV's etc in their cells? Whilst they are are locked up they aren't a threat to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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