HeliX Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 minutes ago, Chinahand said: KWC ... an institution that more or less exists solely to widen societal inequality? Citizen fucking Smith. It reminds me of a left wing academic, who reminded middle class parents that reading to their children widens societal inequality. https://academic.oup.com/book/26717/chapter-abstract/195538409?redirectedFrom=fulltext Teaching kids self confidence, social skills and providing them with a good education is a terrible thing isn't it. Anyone can read to their kids (assuming they can read). I think you'll be hard pressed to argue that affording educational advantages to already advantaged children doesn't widen inequality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 15 minutes ago, Banker said: These are the numbers quoted in 2024 publications King William's College and The Buchan School are situated in the Isle of Man and provide excellent teaching and friendly boarding in a beautiful and safe environment. As a community of more than 150 staff and 600 students, what we value above-all is being strong and friendly. 200 is more than 150 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 5 minutes ago, HeliX said: Anyone can read to their kids (assuming they can read). I think you'll be hard pressed to argue that affording educational advantages to already advantaged children doesn't widen inequality. Drag them down, hey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, Chinahand said: Drag them down, hey. No, appropriately tax them and use that revenue to improve everyone without rich parent's education. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 16 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Drag them down, hey. Or use the money that you would have us given to rich parents in the form of tax breaks to drag up the education of the vast majority who can't afford private education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 KWC should be able to recoup some of the VAT from their eligible spending, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 7 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Or use the money that you would have us given to rich parents in the form of tax breaks to drag up the education of the vast majority who can't afford private education. Again ... the not taxing something isn't a government subsidy. Not taxing educational services isn't giving money to rich parents. No one is giving rich parents anything. Typical socialist mindset. You are so certain of the state's right to take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 It appears to me they are selling the Buchan site to bank a few quid to get them through the next few years - after that who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Not taxing educational services isn't giving money to rich parents. No one is giving rich parents anything. If the tax exemption is applied specifically to a luxury bought by rich parents yes it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Again ... the not taxing something isn't a government subsidy. Not taxing educational services isn't giving money to rich parents. No one is giving rich parents anything. Typical socialist mindset. You are so certain of the state's right to take. It amounts to the same thing though. Government routinely tax goods and services. To not do so in certain cases is a subsidy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meoir Shee Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, Chinahand said: Again ... the not taxing something isn't a government subsidy. Not taxing educational services isn't giving money to rich parents. No one is giving rich parents anything. Typical socialist mindset. You are so certain of the state's right to take. I’m not entirely sure about that comment, I would strongly suspect that KWC, like any other organisation, is indirectly supported by the state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 7 minutes ago, HeliX said: If the tax exemption is applied specifically to a luxury bought by rich parents yes it is. I'm basically stopping now. I totally disagree with you that providing an education to your children that you think is appropriate for them is a luxury. In many cases it is a huge sacrifice. There are lots of things in life that some people can afford and others can't. That doesn't automatically make these things luxurious. The state education system is severely lacking and giving your children a better education than the state provides is a social good. I'm all in favour of progressive taxation, but to tax education is in my view fundamentally wrong. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, WTF said: 200 is more than 150 Well done you’ve passed maths test 😂 I never said anything about 200 staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 18 minutes ago, Chinahand said: I'm basically stopping now. I totally disagree with you that providing an education to your children that you think is appropriate for them is a luxury. In many cases it is a huge sacrifice. There are lots of things in life that some people can afford and others can't. That doesn't automatically make these things luxurious. The state education system is severely lacking and giving your children a better education than the state provides is a social good. I'm all in favour of progressive taxation, but to tax education is in my view fundamentally wrong. Affordability isn't what makes it a luxury, choosing it over the free (at point of use) alternative is what makes it a luxury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 17 minutes ago, Chinahand said: The state education system is severely lacking and giving your children a better education than the state provides is a social good. I have a limited knowledge of the state education here. I was not educated here, but both my children went to school here. Both went to university in England, and both got firsts - one in languages and the other in computing. Therefore in my experience the education system here is not lacking, let alone severely lacking. I suppose you may say that intelligence is just a matter of genes - in which case it is all because of me (and presumably one other person). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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