Harry Lamb Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 26 minutes ago, NoTail said: The IOM Bank hasn't got any bankers. Go in and look around. On the rare occasions I visit the branch I arrange a meeting with the personal banker. Bankers have less and less interaction with their customers which id why so many have been let go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 17 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: On the rare occasions I visit the branch I arrange a meeting with the personal banker. Bankers have less and less interaction with their customers which id why so many have been let go. I think Conister Bank may be filling the space left by IOM Bank. You can speak to real people there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) I said there was some extra information in this latest report regarding what was happening with population changes on the Island and one of the more striking is this graphic: EC stands for Entry Clearance and you can see how dramatically this has changed since 2019 from around 300 a year to around 1100 last year. Indeed we know that this is causing problems with delays to visas and passports. Now the report tries to justify this rise by saying: The below table highlights the increase in Worker Migrant Entry Clearance approvals since 2019, which is understood to be at least partly due to Brexit, as now EU nationals must obtain a visa to live and work in the Isle of Man. Whilst the number of solely Worker Migrant visas issued decreased slightly in 2022-2023, this was offset by the larger number of Health & Care visas issued. There's a nice example of 'weasel words' here in the "which is understood". Because that may be what is understood, but it isn't really true. Because while new EU (I think technically EEA) citizens arriving for jobs may have needed visas from January 2021 onwards, those here will have already sorted out their paperwork before then. And we know that EEA citizens only make up a tiny proportion of these entry clearances because we have figures from elsewhere. In April Julie Edge asked: How many work visas have been issued since October 2021 by broken down by a) category of visa, b) nationality, c) salary, d) public or private sector and e) role within that sector and got a helpful answer that gave a lot of information which covered most of the period of that graphic, most especially the two full years of 2022 and 23. In total there were 2200 broken down by nationality. And only 73 of these were EU plus Switzerland. So that is only 3% of the total and hardly explains the enormous increase in visa number Edited August 15 by Roger Mexico Correction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) So you will be asking exactly where do all these extra people come from, if they're not from the EU. Well I've taken the data and produced a table for you, because of course I have. I've not listed all 95 of the the nationalities involved, just those where there were 10 or more: Filipino 453 Chinese 339 South African 326 Indian 149 Ghanaian 103 Nigerian 82 Pakistani 69 Zimbabwean 53 Indonesian 51 Kenyan 51 Turkish 45 Malaysian 40 American 30 Jamaican 23 Brazilian 21 Bangladeshi 20 Algerian 18 Ugandan 16 Israeli 14 Japanese 14 Bulgarian 13 Australian 12 Canadian 12 Polish 12 Taiwanese 12 Egyptian 11 Edited August 15 by Roger Mexico Correction 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 so now you know why when you are sitting in the Doctors or Dentists its like sitting in the united nations , what would really be interesting to see is a graph of all the quailty white collar workers who have left the Isle of Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 8 minutes ago, Omobono said: so now you know why when you are sitting in the Doctors or Dentists its like sitting in the united nations , Bit xenophobic. And anyway, it isn't. And I should know, because I've been to both my GP and my dentist in the past fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 minute ago, La Colombe said: Bit xenophobic. And anyway, it isn't. And I should know, because I've been to both my GP and my dentist in the past fortnight. I wouldn’t care if my GP or dentist was from Mars, Saturn or Venus. No xenophobia here. Presumably your appointments that you had in the last fortnight were booked months in advance? If not how did you manage to get those slots? There are those of us who would love to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: Presumably your appointments that you had in the last fortnight were booked months in advance? If not how did you manage to get those slots? There are those of us who would love to know. The dentist was a regular check up so yeah, 3-ish months in advance. I phoned my GP and got an appointment for within 5 working days which was fine. Quite simple really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Poppins Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Well we're about to see some (potentially) large decreases in the population due to changes in the online gambling sector. That's going to hurt the local economy, losing so much spending power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 10 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: I think Conister Bank may be filling the space left by IOM Bank. You can speak to real people there. Problem is its owned by a famous Brexiteer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 14 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: Problem is its owned by a famous Brexiteer Famous or infamous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 12 hours ago, Omobono said: so now you know why when you are sitting in the Doctors or Dentists its like sitting in the united nations , Bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 5 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Bollocks. What colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 20 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: So you will be asking exactly where do all these extra people come from, if they're not from the EU. Well I've taken the data and produced a table for you, because of course I have. I've not listed all 95 of the the nationalities involved, just those where there were 10 or more. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 17 hours ago, Omobono said: so now you know why when you are sitting in the Doctors or Dentists its like sitting in the united nations , Not quite how my GP’s surgery looks like; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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