Gladys Posted Tuesday at 10:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:36 PM 1 minute ago, Albert Tatlock said: We should maybe form a self-help group...perhaps call it "Manx Taxpayers". Nice idea, but there is no funding. Interesting times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM 34 minutes ago, Gladys said: Well the UN are right behind us. Unfortunately it's the UN International Court of Justice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted Tuesday at 10:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:51 PM Just now, Amadeus said: Unfortunately it's the UN International Court of Justice Quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted Tuesday at 11:05 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:05 PM 52 minutes ago, Gladys said: Wait for the next press release that we have been nominated for the best small pig butchery island in the world. Maybe we should let their efficient practices loose on the Meat Plant to see if that can turn a similar profit... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptic Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM 3 hours ago, manxkinho said: The connections that the founder of king has to Zhao Wei are an indication of how much of a bad guy he is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Wei_(gangster) Sounds more and more like the Triads, doesn’t it? Sound familiar in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted yesterday at 07:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:06 AM (edited) 21 hours ago, Mistercee said: 1. How was a Manx shellfish processor paying below minimum wage to a foreign national? Must have been employed as pieceworkers. If that's still a thing. Workers are paid by the weight of their output, with no minimum pay for a crap yield or no work due to poor weather. Like Sports Direct on steroids. Back in my day they were Irish students, then they were replaced by Poles and later Bulgarians as the EU went further east. Now these poor Filipinos are doing the graft, but with zero rights. Another Brexit dividend to celebrate. It's so easy to see how the system is being gamed. No NHS surcharge puts us to the front of the queue when sourcing cheap foreign labour, and because this labour will be earning below the income tax threshold, they won't be contributing much to our coffers beyond NI, if that's even being paid. It's interesting, but not surprising, that they are being recruited from the Middle East, rather than directly from the Philippines. The Philippines actually has strict border controls on Filipino nationals leaving the country, and in an attempt to prevent people trafficking refuses boarding of passengers if they suspect foul play is ahead, much to the chagrin of passengers who are leaving for legit jobs who invariably get deboarded & unloaded. There are no such controls on Filipinos leaving third countries like the KSA, UAE and Qatar, for example. So if a downtrodden, exploited domestic worker in Doha or Dubai sees an ad for 'hotel work in the UK', it's unsurprising if they are so easily attracted, especially with the allure of a UK passport at the end of the rainbow. The bonus for the gangmasters is they doubtless bag the NHS surcharge if said victim is rerouted to our shores. Shameful, and even more so given that would be so preventable by anyone in IoM immigration with a modicum of due diligence & common sense. Corruption or gross negligence? You take your pick. Edited 23 hours ago by germann 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted yesterday at 07:12 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:12 AM (edited) 6 minutes ago, germann said: Corruption or gross negligence? You take your pick. can't we choose both ?? Edited yesterday at 07:12 AM by WTF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, germann said: Must have been employed as pieceworkers. If that's still a thing. Workers are paid by the weight of their output, with no minimum pay for a crap yield or no work due to poor weather. Like Sports Direct on steroids. Back in my day they were Irish students, then they were replaced by Poles and later Bulgarians as the EU went further east. Now these poor Filipinos are doing the graft, but with zero rights. Another Brexit dividend to celebrate. It's so easy to see how the system is being gamed. No NHS surcharge puts us to the front of the queue when sourcing cheap foreign labour, and because this labour will be earning below the income tax threshold, they won't be contributing much to our coffers beyond NI, if that's even being paid. It's interesting, but not surprising, that they are being recruited from the Middle East, rather than directly from the Philippines. The Philippines actually has strict border controls on Filipino nationals leaving the country, and in an attempt to prevent people trafficking refuses boarding of passengers if they suspect foul play is ahead, much to the chagrin of passengers who are leaving for legit jobs who invariably get deboarded & unloaded. There are no such controls on Filipinos leaving third countries like the KSA, UAE and Qatar, for example. So if a downtrodden, exploited domestic worker in Doha or Dubai sees an ad for 'hotel work in the UK', it's unsurprising if they are so easily attracted, especially with the allure of a UK passport at the end of the rainbow. The bonus for the gangmasters is they doubtless bag the NHS surcharge if said victim is rerouted to our shores. Shameful, and even more so given that would be so preventable by anyone in IoM immigration with a modicum of due diligence & common sense. Corruption or gross negligence? You take your pick. Pretty spot on I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistercee Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 53 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Pretty spot on I think. But : Under the Minimum Wage Act 2001: 1 Workers to be paid at least the minimum wage [P1998/39/1] (1) A person who qualifies for the minimum wage shall be remunerated by his employer in respect of his work in any pay reference period at a rate which is not less than the minimum wage. (2) A person qualifies for the minimum wage if he is an individual who — (a) is a worker (b) is working, or ordinarily works, in the Island under his contract; and -(c) has ceased to be of compulsory school age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 11 hours ago, germann said: Must have been employed as pieceworkers. If that's still a thing. Workers are paid by the weight of their output, with no minimum pay for a crap yield or no work due to poor weather. You have to pay the designated minimum wage even for piece work. You can’t employ anyone on an hourly rate under that set by the minimum wage. That is the whole point of a minimum wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 9 hours ago, Mistercee said: But : Under the Minimum Wage Act 2001: 1 Workers to be paid at least the minimum wage [P1998/39/1] (1) A person who qualifies for the minimum wage shall be remunerated by his employer in respect of his work in any pay reference period at a rate which is not less than the minimum wage. (2) A person qualifies for the minimum wage if he is an individual who — (a) is a worker (b) is working, or ordinarily works, in the Island under his contract; and -(c) has ceased to be of compulsory school age. I suggest you ask that to be added to the gangmasters' induction pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxkinho Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, germann said: I suggest you ask that to be added to the gangmasters' induction pack. Yeah, apparently it involves setting up a scam centre in a business park and promising to build a 70m HQ, so I heard…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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