Tinpot Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Public EV charging points ready for the scrap heap. Seems slightly against the eco principles of an EV of these things need replacing all the time. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/manx-utilities-announces-plans-to-upgrade-electric-vehicle-charging-network 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 The company Pod Point has withdrawn from the market. So we need a new provider and an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 23 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: The company Pod Point has withdrawn from the market. So we need a new provider and an upgrade. Or just forget it and stick with petrol/diesel… 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Again tax payers including those on low income paying for the rich to have their electric charge points upgraded 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Tinpot said: Seems slightly against the eco principles of an EV of these things need replacing all the time. Although completely with the principles of EV's that the manufacturing process is completely ignored when incentivising ownership. You could buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time than if you'd owned a twenty year old car throughout. I wonder which one would have the lower environmental impact? Doesn't matter, as ever tax breaks are only for those who can afford it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 8 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Although completely with the principles of EV's that the manufacturing process is completely ignored when incentivising ownership. You could buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time than if you'd owned a twenty year old car throughout. I wonder which one would have the lower environmental impact? Doesn't matter, as ever tax breaks are only for those who can afford it. Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Our short-life, throwaway, consumer-driven economy is completely at odds with any drive for sustainability. Nobody ever asks the cost of designing, building (including the resource and manufacturing energy costs) of these short-lived commodities (to include shite designs of cars and engines) that we glibly toss aside in favour of the latest fad. If we were serious about sustainability, we'd be building things to last and be repairable, thus saving energy and resources. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 25 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Although completely with the principles of EV's that the manufacturing process is completely ignored when incentivising ownership. You could buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time than if you'd owned a twenty year old car throughout. I wonder which one would have the lower environmental impact? Doesn't matter, as ever tax breaks are only for those who can afford it. the twenty year old car will have the lower impact , as it was built 20 years ago and has kept going so no replacement was required , the EV on the other hand has yet to prove it can last 20 years and then you have all the nasty lithium to be mined to replace the batteries every 5? years ( 5 years is a guess but the batteries don't last 20 years ) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 24 minutes ago, Banker said: Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes. Wish our lot of hopeless politicians would. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 41 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: buy a new EV every year for five years and pay much less road tax in that time Road tax is not related to the cost of anything - it is just a number decided by politicians. If somehow, magically, everyone now had an electric car, the road tax would be astronomical. Not only would the gov. need the taxes it already imposes, it would also need a fair amount of money to support the infrastructure for electric cars - e.g. where do people who live in flats charge their cars? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 38 minutes ago, Banker said: Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes. Not just road tax. Benefit in kind for company car owners is much lower on an EV as well. It’s wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StCatherine Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: The company Pod Point has withdrawn from the market. So we need a new provider and an upgrade. This has been known since at least January. The way they have pushed it as planned upgrade is laughable. They seem to have been sold this lot on a jolly / fact finding trip to Dundee. Was there a tender exercise anywhere ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 hours ago, Banker said: Hopefully new labour government will address the anomalies in road taxes. Not on the IOM they won't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: Road tax is not related to the cost of anything It is. It is closely related to the pensions deficit for one thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 most ev car designs seem to based on these 'beautiful' ? behemoths??? chris r would definitely want them on the prom??? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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