Mercenary Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Well the problem is that both will be looking to the same people for doing casual driving, so if someone is unavailable for one they will be for the other. Last Saturday's probably was done by Tours, but it was a small ship and they probably only need one coach and the two private hires I saw were other groups. But, as others have said, the basic problem is they're not paying drivers enough and not treating them with enough respect. And that's a problems that's been building for some time. Emphasis mine... private companies react and will up rates if can't find drivers (which feeds into the market rate charged to cruise companies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 End of season cheap trips on. Loads of old people milling about. Double deckers to The Sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 14 hours ago, Stu Peters said: Cruise ships were serviced by qualified driver office staff according to the press release. So, they actually make an effort to make sure the cruise private hires aren't cancelled and to hell with the public service routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: Well the problem is that both will be looking to the same people for doing casual driving, so if someone is unavailable for one they will be for the other. Last Saturday's probably was done by Tours, but it was a small ship and they probably only need one coach and the two private hires I saw were other groups. But, as others have said, the basic problem is they're not paying drivers enough and not treating them with enough respect. And that's a problems that's been building for some time. Absolutely. Add to that they're not training them, or not training anywhere near enough. It's like the ATC debacle all over again. They think they can just throw a few grand at any professional they want to move over here, while training locals to do anything, even jobs we're desperately short of, remains woefully under funded, if it's even funded at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 22 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: End of season cheap trips on. Loads of old people milling about. Double deckers to The Sound. Cruise ship in today, they were in laxey as well on coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 BTW, it seems that Tours Isle of Man have now morphed into some sort of tourism conglomerate called Opul Solutions. They own (??) three hotels, Tower House, the PJC at the Airport, and taxis. Fancy looking website, but rather lacking in substance. https://opul.solutions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 36 minutes ago, Nellie said: and taxis. Convicted drink drivers need taxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 7 hours ago, John Wright said: Didn’t he set up the IoM News & Politics FB page? Some say he is amongst us now. This very thread even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, Barlow said: Some say he is amongst us now. This very thread even. Often see him Tesco and think I should introduce myself. Don't think it would go down well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 28 minutes ago, Gladys said: Often see him Tesco and think I should introduce myself. Don't think it would go down well though. Not till you stop taking the cats in there too 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I don’t think many or any of the Onchan busses were affected so why Edge is getting excited is just grand standing she really needs to calm down . It is a bad situation which could be sorted if decent wages were paid to drivers. Tesco are paying 17 yr olds nearly £12 an hour bus drivers have a more responsible job and should be paid accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Halsall Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 On 9/13/2024 at 1:19 AM, Stu Peters said: Cruise ships were serviced by qualified driver office staff according to the press release. Stu, I do hope that you are simply stating that this was what your department released to the press, and not suggesting that you are in agreement with the constant lack of transparency from your department. If I am wrong, I have to say I thought you were better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 (edited) Don’t worry folks as our dear leader, is making a set piece speech at the IOMG Conference on this particular subject. Apparently it called strategic ambitions. I’m afraid IOMG couldn’t run a bath without making a complete mess of things. More glorified dick waving, showboating and grandstanding but will deliver very little - certainly not sorting out the problems. Edited September 14 by 2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 And another Quango with no responsibility but very deep pockets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 You can understand why the bus driver aren’t working overtime, overtime usually time and a third nowadays, that’ll make it 22% tax band plus ni so basically your evenings and weekends being paid your basic rate, who’s doing that. ? if you’re an office staff, course you’re doing overtime as your massive salary at overtime rate will be considerably more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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