thommo2010 Posted Tuesday at 05:01 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:01 PM I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted Tuesday at 05:03 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:03 PM 6 minutes ago, Omobono said: I understand there were armed police present at the Government conference at the Comis hotel today seen walking casually through the corridors... I heard there was an injury today...Cannan shot himself in the foot again. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM 8 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable 99% of the very difficult stuff here can be dealt with by a taser. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maugholdmafia Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM 7 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable I will tell you what is laughable, that the police thought it necessary to have armed police patrolling the comis for todays event. Presumably in case of a chance of an attack happening. Absolutely mad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM 2 minutes ago, Maugholdmafia said: I will tell you what is laughable, that the police thought it necessary to have armed police patrolling the comis for todays event. Presumably in case of a chance of an attack happening. Absolutely mad And if Howard from the manninline had rocked up and started throwing scones at Howard, and they hadn’t been there???? What then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted Tuesday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:31 PM 18 minutes ago, Tinpot said: And if Howard from the manninline had rocked up and started throwing scones at Howard, and they hadn’t been there???? What then? He'd have still been a sconner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted Tuesday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:40 PM 16 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable I don't think anyone on here is saying that violent crime doesn't exist on the Island, of course it does. It's reported in the media for all to read/hear. Is the violence any worse than it was say 40 years ago? Probably not. Thankfully. Or are you suggesting that the Island is now not safe to the extent that firearms need to be carried? If that's the case then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted Tuesday at 05:44 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:44 PM Perhaps they shouldn't have advertised the top job as...'looking for a high calibre person'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted Tuesday at 05:47 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:47 PM 2 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Perhaps they shouldn't have advertised the top job as...'looking for a high calibre person'. give it a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted Tuesday at 05:49 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:49 PM 6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I don't think anyone on here is saying that violent crime doesn't exist on the Island, of course it does. It's reported in the media for all to read/hear. Is the violence any worse than it was say 40 years ago? Probably not. Thankfully. Or are you suggesting that the Island is now not safe to the extent that firearms need to be carried? If that's the case then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong. Crimes involving offensive weapons saw a 14% decrease in 2022-2023. Similarly, there was a 2% reduction in domestic-related incidents. These figures makes it even more incredulous that we have armed officers wandering around. What would the justification be to be present, and armed, at a government conference? Protection from the justice for the jabbed leaflets? Is this 'credible threat' or 'response time' justification? Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted Tuesday at 06:09 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:09 PM 49 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable Of course there's violent crime here. Nobody has suggested there isn't and it's not a new thing either. Drunken scraps and domestic violence have been around here for as long as I can remember - i've even cited examples on this thread None of it requires the police to shoot anyone though, we don't have gun crime* And here's the thing. There's absolutely no point in carrying a gun, unless you're going to shoot it. No point at all. * I seem to remember the proprietor of an Indian restaurant in the Viking Hotel in Ramsey getting shot in the ass probably around the late 80's if I recall correctly. As far as I know the culprit was arrested without being shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted Tuesday at 06:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:10 PM 20 minutes ago, cissolt said: Crimes involving offensive weapons saw a 14% decrease in 2022-2023. Similarly, there was a 2% reduction in domestic-related incidents. These figures makes it even more incredulous that we have armed officers wandering around. What would the justification be to be present, and armed, at a government conference? Protection from the justice for the jabbed leaflets? Is this 'credible threat' or 'response time' justification? Madness. Making sure none of the government employees who were made to go escaped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted Tuesday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:14 PM 1 hour ago, Maugholdmafia said: I will tell you what is laughable, that the police thought it necessary to have armed police patrolling the comis for todays event. Presumably in case of a chance of an attack happening. Absolutely mad Leaving Costa in the Sea terminal without any armed police presence whatsoever! I'd love to see the risk assessment that let that happen - we were lucky to get away with it IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM 1 hour ago, thommo2010 said: I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable Correct Thommo https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/courts/isle-of-man-police-officer-accused-of-domestic-abuse-appears-in-court-722531 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM I work with someone who used to be a civilian police employee. He told me there's at least a couple of the trained firearms officers here who couldn't hit a donkey's ass with a banjo, but there's a limited pool to choose from and they seem to think we need a lot of armed officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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