Armed Police - Casually strolling

[Tinpot]

5 minutes ago, P.K. said:

It's clear from the furore on here that far from being reassuring having overtly armed officers mingling with the Manx public is a PR disaster.

Someone needs to put the guns away and then put their testicles on a trowel...

No it’s not.

This was discussed in the pub on Monday night.  Nobody there gave a toss, most of us (me included) thought it had been the case that there were a small number of armed officers always on duty for years anyway.

The drama on here was a source of amusement for the gathered company.

Edited yesterday at 09:11 AM by Tinpot

[Gladys]

2 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

No it’s not.

This was discussed in the pub on Monday night.  No post there gave a toss, most of us (me included) thought it had been the case that there were a small number of armed officers always on duty for years anyway.

The drama on here was a source of amusement for the gathered company.

You post in the pub? 

[P.K.]

2 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

No it’s not.

This was discussed in the pub on Monday night.  No post there gave a toss, most of us (me included) thought it had been the case that there were a small number of armed officers always on duty for years anyway.

The drama on here was a source of amusement for the gathered company.

For me there seems to be a distinct lack of any kind of justification. Simply put some people absolutely abhor firearms and the sight of them makes them feel very vulnerable and uneasy.

@Tinpot

If you and the rest of the pub disagree I'm fine with it...

[Steve_Christian]

7 minutes ago, P.K. said:

It's clear from the furore on here that far from being reassuring having overtly armed officers mingling with the Manx public is a PR disaster.

Someone needs to put the guns away and then put their testicles on a trowel...

Headline reads: ‘Furore’ on Manx forums has absolutely no impact on public policing policy as Chief Cop shamelessly ignores keyboard warriors who have no idea what they’re talking about… 

[Andy Onchan]

13 minutes ago, Steve_Christian said:

Headline reads: ‘Furore’ on Manx forums has absolutely no impact on public policing policy as Chief Cop shamelessly ignores keyboard warriors who have no idea what they’re talking about… 

But we're assured that nothing's changed. But we still need to arm our police. Why?

[Derek Flint]

6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

But we're assured that nothing's changed. But we still need to arm our police. Why?

We have had an armed capability since the dawn of time. 

This is nothing new. Show me one country on earth without an armed capability with its police

[Barlow]

25 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

No it’s not.

This was discussed in the pub on Monday night.  Nobody there gave a toss, most of us (me included) thought it had been the case that there were a small number of armed officers always on duty for years anyway.

The drama on here was a source of amusement for the gathered company.

Haha, you do realise the sort of people who gather in pubs these days. I'll take a guess at your mates: grumpy, lonely, opinionated, middle-aged alcoholics.

Although it can be argued Manx Forums may well have a section with a similar demographic, I think you'd be better using it for your litmus. 

[Barlow]

2 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said:

Didn't one of our past chief constables put in a request for a chopper, just in case one was needed ?

There was certainly a Chief Constable who was renowned for use of his chopper around the Island. And there was no need for police PR as he had erm, direct access to one of the top reporters too.

[Andy Onchan]

19 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

We have had an armed capability since the dawn of time. 

This is nothing new. Show me one country on earth without an armed capability with its police

I, and probably many others on here, know that IOMP have the capability when required. Capability doesn't necessarily equal justification of use 24/7/365.

[Jarndyce]

1 hour ago, Derek Flint said:

We have had an armed capability since the dawn of time.

I would suggest that we haven’t, in fact…

[RecklessAbandon]

3 hours ago, Steve_Christian said:

You’ve never actually served with the RAF Regt then 😂

Nope, but I know people who did serve in the Regiment.

Northern Ireland during the troubles.  I'd love to see you explain soldiering to people like them.

[RecklessAbandon]

7 hours ago, Tinpot said:

Have you even read the thread?

There is no additional cost.

So all the additional guns, armour, ammo, training, storage, vehicle conversions, etc all magically appeared for free and costs exactly the same for the exact same number of personnel but without firearms?

Wow, the IOM should be selling this free armed police service to other places, its a miracle.

[RecklessAbandon]

19 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

I genuinely believe some people on this thread should go on a few shifts with the police to see what they deal with. The notion that there's no violent crime on this Island is laughable

There is a difference between violent crime and violent crime that requires a firearm as a resolution.

[Tinpot]

6 minutes ago, RecklessAbandon said:

So all the additional guns, armour, ammo, training, storage, vehicle conversions, etc all magically appeared for free and costs exactly the same for the exact same number of personnel but without firearms?

Wow, the IOM should be selling this free armed police service to other places, it’s a miracle.

Again.  Have you read the thread?

There are no additional of any of those things. What are you on about?

[RecklessAbandon]

2 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

Again.  Have you read the thread?

There are no additional of any of those things. What are you on about?

If we had 10 police without guns and they cost £10 and then we had 10 police with guns and they cost £20, what is the difference in the cost of the police?