Maugholdmafia Posted Saturday at 11:55 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 11:55 AM 22 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Griff and Paddy have retired. These cops you see aren't 'deployed'. Read the stuff I've highlighted. So the isle of man police has then gone from white helmet bobbies on the beat to bullet proof vest robocops on Strand street. Another step towards Government madness. Next we will be getting arrested for commenting on this forum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted Saturday at 11:56 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:56 AM 8 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: If it is any comfort, the Scots were outraged about a standing authority armed carry some years ago. Yeah, but you get the 'us and them' thing I hope, and the distancing even more from the public which the police are employed to protect. "Look at me I've got a big gun". Which makes me want to say "oh fuck off" but obviously I er, don't. PS I've fired more rounds than these guys have had the proverbial hot dinners. One or two of them (for good reason) I wouldn't trust with a truncheon let alone an automatic weapon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted Saturday at 11:58 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:58 AM 1 minute ago, A fool and his money..... said: We don't need them here, it's that simple. I don't care how you dress it up. One of the ever decreasing list of benefits of living on the island is its safety. If you don't go looking for trouble, it's extremely unlikely that it will find you. It is exactly no safer with the presence of armed police, we simply don't need them. Give Russ Foster a ring. I'm sure he'd be grateful for your input. 631212 - ask for the Chief Constable. 1 minute ago, Kopek said: Simple solution, either take the guns off , store securely and go for a coffee......or....... Get someone to bring the coffees to the rest room. If they are meeting a boat with a threat onboard, it's not as though the boat is going to creep in behind their backs??? No it isn't. History has shown it is when you are constantly taking guns on and off, is when mistakes and accidents on. Holster it - leave it there unless needed - put it back in the armoury at end of shift. Remember, coppers are simple folk. Keep it that way for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted Saturday at 11:59 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:59 AM 1 minute ago, A fool and his money..... said: We don't need them here, it's that simple. I don't care how you dress it up. One of the ever decreasing list of benefits of living on the island is its safety. If you don't go looking for trouble, it's extremely unlikely that it will find you. It is exactly no safer with the presence of armed police, we simply don't need them. Give Russ Foster a ring. I'm sure he'd be grateful for your input. 631212 - ask for the Chief Constable. 1 minute ago, Kopek said: Simple solution, either take the guns off , store securely and go for a coffee......or....... Get someone to bring the coffees to the rest room. If they are meeting a boat with a threat onboard, it's not as though the boat is going to creep in behind their backs??? No it isn't. History has shown it is when you are constantly taking guns on and off, is when mistakes and accidents on. Holster it - leave it there unless needed - put it back in the armoury at end of shift. Remember, coppers are simple folk. Keep it that way for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted Saturday at 12:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:00 PM ..or guns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted Saturday at 12:02 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:02 PM (edited) 34 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: History has shown it is when you are constantly taking guns on and off, is when mistakes and accidents on. Holster it - leave it there unless needed - put it back in the armoury at end of shift. You've enlightened one member of the community, well done. Your mate can now state that "half the Isle of man think we can just leave the gun lying around when going for a coffee" (or for a dump - see Pulp Fiction's Vincent for details). Edited Saturday at 12:34 PM by Barlow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted Saturday at 12:04 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:04 PM 5 minutes ago, Maugholdmafia said: So the isle of man police has then gone from white helmet bobbies on the beat to bullet proof vest robocops on Strand street. Another step towards Government madness. Next we will be getting arrested for commenting on this forum If that is the political will, then I am sure they will oblige 3 minutes ago, Barlow said: Yeah, but you get the 'us and them' thing I hope, and the distancing even more from the public which the police are employed to protect. "Look at me I've got a big gun". Which makes me want to say "oh fuck off" but obviously I er, don't. PS I've fired more rounds than these guys have had the proverbial hot dinners. One or two of them (for good reason) I wouldn't trust with a truncheon let alone an automatic weapon. On the latter, I wouldn't bet on it. Many, many thousands are expended in training. It is a very long course and the fail rate is usually over 50% On the former, I totally get it. Although the explanation will be very broadly the same, it would be good for the cops to do some public reassurance. They've got a new PR bod whom I'm sure will be all over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted Saturday at 12:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:06 PM 7 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Remember, coppers are simple folk. Keep it that way for them Not very re-assuring !!! 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted Saturday at 12:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:13 PM 2 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: Armed police shouldn't be casually ordering coffees in the Sea Terminal. Someone needs to get a grip here. Where should they go then ? Noas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maugholdmafia Posted Saturday at 12:14 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 12:14 PM Just now, Banker said: Where should they go then ? Noas ? Back to the nick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted Saturday at 12:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:16 PM Just been to Tesco Vic Road. There was a fully equipped PC there picking up a sandwich. He had what looked like a gun, but I think it may have been a taser. Is it more likely this was what was seen in Costa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted Saturday at 12:19 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:19 PM What a bizarre thread. What is intimidating about a police officer with a weapon being in Costa? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted Saturday at 12:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:24 PM 10 minutes ago, Banker said: Where should they go then ? Noas ? On their wages? 7 minutes ago, Gladys said: Just been to Tesco Vic Road. There was a fully equipped PC there picking up a sandwich. He had what looked like a gun, but I think it may have been a taser. Is it more likely this was what was seen in Costa? Tasers are yellow Guns are black Mix them both up And you may get the sack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted Saturday at 12:25 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:25 PM 30 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: If it is any comfort, the Scots were outraged about a standing authority armed carry some years ago. It's of no comfort or no relevance either. If the public of a country of over 5 million people with a long history of violent crime and sectarianism, with close cultural links to Northern Ireland, don't feel they need an armed police presence, then why is it felt necessary in on a sleepy, law abiding island of 85K? The short answer is, it isn't necessary, not even close. You get the impression our armed police are more to protect the ego of some small time copper who's found himself in some sleepy blackwater than they are to protect members of the public - who I think it's fairly clear, do not want or need them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted Saturday at 12:29 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:29 PM 3 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: who I think it's fairly clear, do not want or need them Why would people not want armed police ready to respond if needed? What’s the harm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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