Cost of teachers

[Moghrey Mie]

If x teachers work for y hours for five years how much will this cost?

Answers to the Department of Education, Sport and Culture.

No wonder departments go over budget.

 

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/education-department-doesnt-know-total-cost-of-supply-teachers/

Edited 18 hours ago by Moghrey Mie

[Mikimoto]

Are teachers still the ones who got 2 EEs and ended up at Edge Hill?

[Moghrey Mie]

5 minutes ago, Mikimoto said:

Are teachers still the ones who got 2 EEs and ended up at Edge Hill?

Local students have always gone to Edge Hill to train as teachers. It's the training that matters not what A Levels you got.

[Harry Lamb]

1 hour ago, Mikimoto said:

Are teachers still the ones who got 2 EEs and ended up at Edge Hill?

Minimum CCC + 5 GCSE incl Eng & Math. Most of my best teachers only had a Cert Ed, but they'd been too busy fighting a war to pick up other qualifications.

[Manx Bean]

2 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

If x teachers work for y hours for five years how much will this cost?

Answers to the Department of Education, Sport and Culture.

No wonder departments go over budget.

 

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/education-department-doesnt-know-total-cost-of-supply-teachers/

I wonder if Manx Don’tCare use the same budgetary controls?

[Albert Tatlock]

1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said:

 It's the training that matters not what A Levels you got.

I wouldn't say that. If you can't even pass them yourself, how likely is it for the kids you're teaching to pass them?

[manxman1980]

In fairness I don't think my employer could say how much was spent on agency workers.

The payments are accounted for but I think the Finance Team puts them in the accounts in some strange places.  What sounds like a simple report to run ends up being very convoluted. 

[wrighty]

4 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

I wouldn't say that. If you can't even pass them yourself, how likely is it for the kids you're teaching to pass them?

You are aware that not all teachers have to teach A-levels in all subjects? I'd expect a teacher of Further Maths to have a degree in the subject, but a primary school teacher, probably not. 

[Max Power]

A friend of mine, recently retired teacher earns around £1,100 a week as a supply teacher. Admittedly no sick, pay, holidays and pension, but he already collects that too!

Nice work if you can get it!

[Meoir Shee]

16 minutes ago, Max Power said:

A friend of mine, recently retired teacher earns around £1,100 a week as a supply teacher. Admittedly no sick, pay, holidays and pension, but he already collects that too!

Nice work if you can get it!

Why not sign up?

[Meoir Shee]

5 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

I wouldn't say that. If you can't even pass them yourself, how likely is it for the kids you're teaching to pass them?

I personally am aware of more than 1 teacher who have no A levels whatsoever but have got several hundred kids through A levels over the years.  Not all Level 3 qualifications are A levels.  If you don’t understand the system, how likely is it you’ll make a ridiculous comment?

[Ivy]

7 hours ago, Mikimoto said:

Are teachers still the ones who got 2 EEs and ended up at Edge Hill?

Nah. Back in the 90's you only needed one 'E' to get into Edge Hill for anything as it wasn't a real university. The "degrees" were signed off by Lancaster University, in the same way that UCM degrees are signed off by Chester University now. A friend of mine re-sat their GCSE maths FIVE TIMES to get a C-grade so they could graduate with their degree in primary teaching from Edge Hill and get a job (a teaching job requires a 'C' in Maths and English). An Edge Hill degree in anything from the 1990's or 2000's isn't worth the paper it's written on. They'd have been better getting a trade and they'd be earning more money.

[Happier diner]

1 hour ago, Max Power said:

A friend of mine, recently retired teacher earns around £1,100 a week as a supply teacher. Admittedly no sick, pay, holidays and pension, but he already collects that too!

Nice work if you can get it!

• You can get it if you are a teacher. There is a shortage. 
• Work is not guaranteed. They have zero hours contracts. 
• Their rates are the same as teachers. 

[Happier diner]

1 hour ago, wrighty said:

You are aware that not all teachers have to teach A-levels in all subjects? I'd expect a teacher of Further Maths to have a degree in the subject, but a primary school teacher, probably not. 

Not in the subject no. However I believe you need a degree to become a teacher. That degree can be a degree in teaching or anything.

You need the subject degree (or similar) for secondary education. 

[germann]

20 minutes ago, Ivy said:

Nah. Back in the 90's you only needed one 'E' to get into Edge Hill for anything as it wasn't a real university. The "degrees" were signed off by Lancaster University, in the same way that UCM degrees are signed off by Chester University now. A friend of mine re-sat their GCSE maths FIVE TIMES to get a C-grade so they could graduate with their degree in primary teaching from Edge Hill and get a job (a teaching job requires a 'C' in Maths and English). An Edge Hill degree in anything from the 1990's or 2000's isn't worth the paper it's written on. They'd have been better getting a trade and they'd be earning more money.

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