Hooper has resigned

[Mr Helmut Fromage]

10 minutes ago, Thefella said:

St Joney off too what a great day for democracy. I bet Rob Callister is laughing his cock off. She was all over Facebook last week proposing that the IOM bring in inheritance tax to pay for her failed health service. She’s another who could be replaced by a tailors dummy or a scarecrow and nobody would notice. 

It implies Alfs Cuckold has one to actually laugh off….

[Banker]

9 minutes ago, woolley said:

Though Allinson flatly denied this. I think we'll finish up with a fudge where there's a creeping programme of charges for different things. More prescription charges? Charges to see a GP?

Prescription charges for those who can afford should go up as they’re too cheap compared to UK , maybe a small payment for GPs would stop all the no shows and time wasters.

[Ringy Rose]

Just now, woolley said:

You think Tynwald runs the Island?

Of course the collective Tynwald don’t.

The Chief Minister does. But it always suits the various Chief Ministers to insinuate otherwise, civil servants aren’t allowed to answer back publicly.

Unless you’re also arguing the chief of the civil service- hand picked by Cannan- also doesn’t have any power?

As for Manx Care, Cannan has his greasy mitts all over it, right since day one. He was the Treasury Minister who pushed it through in the beginning.

 

[woolley]

Allinson also mentioned that the new Healthcare Levy is being worked up and they are looking at new revenue flows to residents that could be made subject to it that are not currently in the income tax net. Specifically mentioned were income from overseas and (interestingly) the total income of tax cappers. If they're going to do this, you could make an argument to extend the levy to capital gains.

Aside from the health aspects, he also confirmed that the triple lock on pensions will be dropped from next year, and that alternative options will be published imminently to "make the NI Fund sustainable in the long term and to promote inter-generational fairness". All of this could cause much fun. Interesting times.

[Ringy Rose]

2 minutes ago, Banker said:

Prescription charges for those who can afford should go up as they’re too cheap compared to UK

They’re free in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

It’s just England where they rinse people for essential medication.

[woolley]

4 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said:

They’re free in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

It’s just England where they rinse people for essential medication.

Yes. The English taxpayers just pay for it all.

[Banker]

5 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said:

They’re free in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

It’s just England where they rinse people for essential medication.

Scotland and wales healthcare is in much worse state than englands , also Scotland have recently put up taxes and cut other services including mental health, concessionary travel etc so basically someone else is paying for it !

Edited 16 hours ago by Banker

[Omobono]

3 hours ago, cissolt said:

Joney has also resigned, not sure if she got to make a fancy speech though 

 

not even sure if she did anything in health to start with ,another waste of breath  busy with her own  agenda 

[woolley]

1 minute ago, Banker said:

Scotland and wales healthcare is in much worse state than englands , also Scotland have recently put up taxes and cut other services including mental health, concessionary travel etc

Not aware of Scotland cutting concessionary travel unless you mean the curious proposal to give it to asylum seekers. Unless this is very recent.

[Ringy Rose]

6 minutes ago, Banker said:

Scotland and wales healthcare is in much worse state than englands

So the Tories say. The truth is that it isn’t in any worse state.

Prescription charges create more bureaucracy. There are office blocks in Newcastle full of people who are paid to assess whether someone is entitled to free prescriptions, other officer blocks full of people paid to chase people who claimed it wrongly, and yet more officer blocks full of people processing the pre-payment certificates. The NHS Business Services Authority has a wage bill alone of almost £200m!

There comes a point when the revenue from the charges is basically used to pay for the bureaucracy to manage the charging scheme. 

[NoTail]

2 hours ago, Utah 01 said:

There appears to be a common factor in every shit-show that this parish council presides over, from Crogga to our ever diminishing transport links............and the name begins with 'C' and ends in 'n'.

At least it doesn't begin with C and end with T

[WTF]

55 minutes ago, Thefella said:

St Joney off too what a great day for democracy. I bet Rob Callister is laughing his cock off. She was all over Facebook last week proposing that the IOM bring in inheritance tax to pay for her failed health service. She’s another who could be replaced by a tailors dummy or a scarecrow and nobody would notice. 

has karran given the scarecrow back ?

[Roger Mexico]

48 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said:

Nah, it’s very much the other way around with Cannan. The civil servants who do as they’re told get promoted, the ones who don’t get booted.

Why on earth do you think Cannan hand-picked Andy Ralphs to lead the civil service? Ralphs is the intellectual equivalent of shitting in your hands and clapping, but he does as he’s told.

This isn't quite right.  What Cannan really wants is to be surrounded by yes-men who tell him what he wants to hear.   So anyone who points out that his ideas are impractical or not thought through or just a succession of meaningless buzzwords will certainly not be in favour.

But that doesn't mean that what he thinks he wants will actually get done.  He really just wants to feel good, action is irrelevant.  So the civil servants will just put forward what they want to do and persuade him it's what he really wants.  Which, as what they want normally consists of more money and staff for them and otherwise kicking the can down the road, suits Alf just fine.

[Vaaish]

1 hour ago, Ringy Rose said:

Why on earth do you think Cannan hand-picked Andy Ralphs to lead the civil service? Ralphs is the intellectual equivalent of shitting in your hands and clapping, but he does as he’s told.

On current evidence he’s been told to hide in a cave somewhere and do precisely nothing while the public service slips irrevocably into chaos.

[Banker]

25 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said:

So the Tories say. The truth is that it isn’t in any worse state.

Prescription charges create more bureaucracy. There are office blocks in Newcastle full of people who are paid to assess whether someone is entitled to free prescriptions, other officer blocks full of people paid to chase people who claimed it wrongly, and yet more officer blocks full of people processing the pre-payment certificates. The NHS Business Services Authority has a wage bill alone of almost £200m!

There comes a point when the revenue from the charges is basically used to pay for the bureaucracy to manage the charging scheme. 

Personally I think every one including pensioners should pay unless long term conditions and on low incomes, too many wealthy people getting cheap prescriptions and everyone including me should pay more.