Steven Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I dont have a problem with domes as long as there used in the right way? The worlds largest butterfly dome in chiswell green, st albans, was on monday gven the go ahead It will cost just £15 million, will be home to some 300 species of butterflys along with lotsa trees, plants + flowers to provide the corect conditions, for these little friends Underground will be a caves full of spiders, scorpions, tropical insects ie leaf cutting spiders ect! A similar dome in avon attracts 90,000 visiters a year, this one is espected to attract 250,000 a year. Its gunna be pure magic!!! Ive been saying this on the isle of man for goodness knows how long, that we need the largest public aquarium on earth or else some other kinda natural history museum or wildlife dome or santuaray ? They vertually pays for themselves within its first year, the next it makes huge profits for the well being of the comunitey ect! But no one will listen, its wasted on crap!!! ie £100,000s on goverment reports into this, that + the other, all totally irrelevant + of no use to anyone or anything + of which we already know about!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexMcC Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Where's Glen Duff? Is that the incinerator? On the Ramsey to Sulby road. Ah Sulby, the centre of the known universe..... Shame they can spend that much on slabs and not fix the damned steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 you might well find that the slab is "procured" from another government department so although £100,000 is a lot of money for a concrete slab, the money is only really being moved from one government department to another less the cost of materials and labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 but I don't think so Jim 'cos its Douglas Corpn and Douglas ratepayers money so I goddam hope they aren't going to pay the Govt £100grand for laying a concrete slab - (unless of course someone can persuade all the Tynwald mafiosi to get underneath it) - surely all the Corpy have to do is mix a bit extra and go fix the wonkey steps at the same time - but guess that's too intelligent and logical for Corpy works department....doh:-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 but I don't think so Jim 'cos its Douglas Corpn and Douglas ratepayers money so I goddam hope they aren't going to pay the Govt £100grand for laying a concrete slab - (unless of course someone can persuade all the Tynwald mafiosi to get underneath it) - surely all the Corpy have to do is mix a bit extra and go fix the wonkey steps at the same time - but guess that's too intelligent and logical for Corpy works department....doh:-( douglas corp is local gov i.e. part of gov it is all just gov money getin pushed about the place at the end of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 In the best pantomime voice "Oh no it's not" Douglas cirporation is self funding, they would love Centeral Government to pay it vast sums of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 well done Biker boy / girl - Douglas Corporation gets its money from Douglas ratepayers and Govt money is from all taxpayers and those taxpayers who are also ratepayers. Governemnt doesn't have its own money....and neither does Douglas Corporation...its just that some people like to know who is spending their money.. what on..why..and is it justified..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 blah blah blah, rates/tax it is all tax you get taxed by the gov. end of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 El Jim - its what its spent on and the priorities attributed that matter.....and in my book £100 grand for a piece of concrete on which your going to stick a big pile of compost comes nowhere near making sure places are well lit at night and that elderley people are safe and that antisocial behaviour is stamped out....etc..etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I agree, all I was trying to point out is that although £100,000 sounds a lot the money may just be moving from one gov pot to another, in this instance it will be to the detriment of Douglas ratepayers. Humm is that what you were saying all along? best I shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry_kid Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 the idea of the slab is a way of getting of waiste from the corpy gardens hedge/grass cuttings ect, which will be chopped then left on the slab to rot then after a few months it will be a valuble compost to go back to the gardens .. the south amienity tip has a simaler system .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTool Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 why not get the corpy to buy a skip wagon to take there waste to the southern site thus saving money and time. All they have to do is put thier waste in skips and a driver can take it to the southern amenity site for processing. But hang on isnt the sothern amenity site 15 miles from douglas OOOooo no we cannot have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted December 29, 2005 Author Share Posted December 29, 2005 what does the Corpy do now with all the waste garden material..surely it doesn't go to the incinerator or does the incinerator need it to keep going? which reminds me...how much electricity is it generating and contributing and what is the cost per unit compared to that generated by the MEA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 the "lowest tender" winner to lay the concrete slab per the Corpy minutes is Tooms Brothers...but the minutes don't say who the other five firms were that tendered...is that open enough?? Does anyone know if the contract is fixed price or cost plus??? ....cos if its not fixed price then the lowest tender could easily turn out to be the most expensive!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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