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Rice admits flights to foreign countries

 

The first comment from the US has confirmed the existence of flights to foreign countries but, of course, the Americans have denied torture. Why bother flying them to another country? Why keep prisoners in Guantanamo if it's not to torture them outside of US laws? Why does what America constitute as torture differ from the rest of the civilized world (Americans claim sleep deprivation is not torture)?

 

Countries where it' alleged that Americans (CIA) have treveled to to torture prisoners: German, United Kingdom, Poland, Romania, Spain, Ireland

 

If this turns out to be true then the USA have shown that they are worse than many of the nations they brand as being an axis of evil.

 

God help America!

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don't the CIA use small executive jets too? how many of those that come into Ronaldsway for refuelling are US registered and might be CIA??

 

( doesn't the CIA have a page on its site about the IOM and the airport?).

 

I wouldn't be suprised. They've apparently used Glasgow Prestwick airport almost a hundred times.

 

The CIA country profiles on their website are, I think, quite innocent.

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don't the CIA use small executive jets too? how many of those that come into Ronaldsway for refuelling are US registered and might be CIA??

These are some of the jets which are known to have been used by the CIA:

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I recommend you buy yourself a nice anorak, grab your binoculars, and sit in a bush of your choice at Ronaldsway - who knows, you might be on to something here... :rolleyes:

 

P.S.: The longer you sit there, the better your chances, so take your time!

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ah so...the man in the pub aka crinkly old git aka anorak in bush with binoculars tells me that it can positively be proved that the following US registered executive jets have visited on stop overs at Ronaldsway, as follows

 

1) Cessna Citation - N606AT 21/1/04

2) Falcon 50 N917SB 2/4/04 en-route to Goose Bay Canada

3) Challanger N604Vm 14/7/04 arrived from Canada

4) IAI Gulfstream200 N200GA 14/9/04

5) Cessna Citation X N238CX 16/7/05

 

so - I'm betting there is an expert out there who can track down who owns each of those aircraft ? or someone who can say how to?

 

:ph34r:

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an now Biggles mate "Chuck Jaeger" with the Langley connection gives the info as to who those planes are registered to :

 

1) = surprise surprise an IOM co called Longborough Limited - who dat den??

 

2) = SKA Consulting LLC of Westlake Village CA

 

3) = Global Aviation LLC, Las Vegas NV

 

4) = Pleasant Aircraft Leasing LLC, Newbury Park CA ( an as of 24/6/05 its changing its nr to N606GA)

 

5) = Schweitzer Aircraft Leasing Inc, Pullman WA

 

....how you find out more probably means I can't tell you without having to kill you..so does someone else want to provide some info on why the planes were visiting ? and who they had on board?

 

:ph34r:

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previously info links flights to and from Ronaldsway with Goose Bay and Canada - in the London Free Press the report dated Monday December 5, 2005 is:-

 

 

CIA aircraft linked to Newfoundland

The private aircraft's flight raises new questions about Canada's role in the fight against terrorism.

By JIM BRONSKILL, CP

Records show a privately owned airplane that has been linked to an alleged CIA front flew from Newfoundland to the United States on Friday, raising new questions about Canada's role in the fight against terrorism.

 

was Osma L Bulb on any of those flights??

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Guardian: 5/12/2005

 

Several European governments, as well as the EU, have launched investigations into hundreds of CIA flights which have shuttled through the continent. Fresh revelations in Germany at the weekend show that CIA aircraft have landed in the country on 437 occasions. The Washington Post also reported that dozens of prisoners had been wrongly taken under rendition, with some kidnapped in their home countries and held incommunicado for weeks.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/...1657736,00.html

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Guardian: 5/12/2005

Several European governments, as well as the EU, have launched investigations into hundreds of CIA flights which have shuttled through the continent. Fresh revelations in Germany at the weekend show that CIA aircraft have landed in the country on 437 occasions. The Washington Post also reported that dozens of prisoners had been wrongly taken under rendition, with some kidnapped in their home countries and held incommunicado for weeks.

 

If this is how the Americans plan to win their war on terror then they don't stand a chance. This will merely annoy their allies and potential allies and alienate many moderate muslims and non-muslims alike.

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