theintelligentthug Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 im of the popinion that racism doesnt occur out of ignorance, but out of experience. both good and bad. the phrase "asians have almost natural entrepenuerial (sp?) skills" is no less racist than saying "white people are stupid" and vice versa. but yeah, i do believe that racism is not ignorance but experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I had an Uncle, a lovely man who i miss greatly and he was a bigot/racist. He would tell me, son i would never knowingly speak to a catholic or a campbell, his bigotry was learned from infancy in his enviroment, not from any experiance of catholics or campbells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theintelligentthug Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I had an Uncle, a lovely man who i miss greatly and he was a bigot/racist.He would tell me, son i would never knowingly speak to a catholic or a campbell, his bigotry was learned from infancy in his enviroment, not from any experiance of catholics or campbells. fair comment, however, i would hasten to add that you uncle, lovely man though he could have been, was stupid. to make generalisations on people having no experience of them, is not racist or bigoted, just stupid in the most broad sense of the word. "racist? how can i be racist? i didnt even know those little arab bastards existed til 9/11" to quote a comedian. ignorance is ignorance. racism is racism. the two are quite separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 quite right, ignorance or lack of experience is one of many routes to racism. On a nice note, in later years my Uncle recanted and regretted his earlier bigotry and it was his time spent on the island away from Glasgow that taught him the error of his ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Hurrah! Nothing like cheap racism to really add validity to your views on world politics. Come on, Enoch, tell me more. There is NOTHING so cheap as bigotry. Dear Oh dear Mr Phildo, not a little tired and confused are we? If scum find it objectionable to be referred to as scum, well good. But it's not bigoted or racist, it's because of how they are. Cause and effect. Basically no different from having a good laugh at the thicko, slack-jawed, burberry apes called Chavs. So don't bother climbing onto any assumed moral high ground to try and take a pop at it as in my eyes you're just making a fool of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 If you are wanting to enter the debate PK has started centered around racism I think it would be best to post in the specially created "Racism" Topic. ... but don't let me stop you if you want to carry on! If you are wanting to post about the US and Torture post away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 While everyone seems to be focussed on the Unicef Report On Children's Well-being, THIS LITTLE ITEM, about secret CIA flights which allowed the US to forcibly remove terror suspects, appears to be slipping by. The UK, Germany and Italy were among 14 states which allowed the US to forcibly remove terror suspects, MEPs said. The EU parliament voted to accept a resolution condemning member states who accepted or ignored the practice. The EU report said the US had operated 1,200 flights, flying suspects on to states where they could face torture. The report was adopted by a large majority, with 382 MEPs voting in favour, 256 against and 74 abstaining. The final version denounces the lack of co-operation of many EU member states and it condemns the actions of secret services and governments who accepted and concealed renditions. The report defines extraordinary renditions as instances where "an individual suspected of involvement in terrorism is illegally abducted, arrested and/or transferred into the custody of US officials and/or transported to another country for interrogation which, in the majority of cases involves incommunicado detention and torture". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Italy orders CIA kidnapping trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxcrabber Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 don't the CIA use small executive jets too? how many of those that come into Ronaldsway for refuelling are US registered and might be CIA?? are you a complete fuckwit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 don't the CIA use small executive jets too? how many of those that come into Ronaldsway for refuelling are US registered and might be CIA?? are you a complete fuckwit? Welcome to the wonderful world of MCB/Copycat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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