Lonan3 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 the major routes to london, dublin, mancheester, liverpool will always be operated by someone OMG - Cheesemonster is using radio waves for brain control Quick, get me my foil hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Just wondering - is Alpha One actually operating now? Or is "Branson jr." grounded? Just haven't really heard or seen anything, and there are no Alpha One flights on the IOM airport website - at least not under their name and for today... edited to add: Lonan - veeeeeeery funny..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lectro Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's wishful thinking to imagine why Easyjet or Ryanair would operate flights to/from here. There is just not the amount of business to justify it. The only way I could see that they might consider it is that they would want to move their head offices here and pay less tax. For Ryanair that'll never happen as they want to build a second terminal specifically for themselves at Dublin airport and they would lose significant backing if they were to move. Then again Michael O'Leary would make mincemeat out of the Manx politicans so he could get any concession he wanted... Don't know enough about Easyjet to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesemonster2005 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's wishful thinking to imagine why Easyjet or Ryanair would operate flights to/from here. There is just not the amount of business to justify it. The only way I could see that they might consider it is that they would want to move their head offices here and pay less tax. For Ryanair that'll never happen as they want to build a second terminal specifically for themselves at Dublin airport and they would lose significant backing if they were to move. Then again Michael O'Leary would make mincemeat out of the Manx politicans so he could get any concession he wanted... Don't know enough about Easyjet to comment. Yes but they wouldn't need to be offering daily flights. Many of the Ryanair destinations only fly once or twice a week due to demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lectro Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I seem to recall reading re: Ryanair that says they will only continue a route if it is making a profit and every flight is at least 80% full. The once a week flights you refer to are generally when a route first opens. If the route is profitable they expand it - if not it's axed. If you read their strategy paper you'll see that their model is based on frequent short haul flights. "In the fiscal year ended March 31, 2004, Ryanair flew an average of approximately 1.83 round-trips per route per day with an average route length of 491 miles and an average flight duration of approximately 1.2 hours. " http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/about.php Anyway we're talking in circles. It'll never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teapot Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 What about the idea of using the airlines like a bus. For instance, on these flights that are 2/3rds empty, let people just go down to the airport and buy a ticket at a nominal fee, say £5.00 cheaper than the cheapest ticket (Euromanx IOM to Liverpool return £30.00 would then be £25.00 return) and go on the plane, no booking in advance just buy your ticket and walk on. The planes are going to fly anyway so better that they fly full at £25 than empty. Just a thought, it might encourage more people to be spontaneous! If you can't get on the plane you turn up for because it's full, you go on the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesemonster2005 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 What about the idea of using the airlines like a bus. For instance, on these flights that are 2/3rds empty, let people just go down to the airport and buy a ticket at a nominal fee, say £5.00 cheaper than the cheapest ticket (Euromanx IOM to Liverpool return £30.00 would then be £25.00 return) and go on the plane, no booking in advance just buy your ticket and walk on. The planes are going to fly anyway so better that they fly full at £25 than empty. Just a thought, it might encourage more people to be spontaneous! If you can't get on the plane you turn up for because it's full, you go on the next one. It makes a lot of sense and that's how it should work but it'll never happen because the budget airlines rely on people booking wellin advance. If they starting offering low fares on the day of travel their business plan would be fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teapot Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 What about the idea of using the airlines like a bus. For instance, on these flights that are 2/3rds empty, let people just go down to the airport and buy a ticket at a nominal fee, say £5.00 cheaper than the cheapest ticket (Euromanx IOM to Liverpool return £30.00 would then be £25.00 return) and go on the plane, no booking in advance just buy your ticket and walk on. The planes are going to fly anyway so better that they fly full at £25 than empty. Just a thought, it might encourage more people to be spontaneous! If you can't get on the plane you turn up for because it's full, you go on the next one. It makes a lot of sense and that's how it should work but it'll never happen because the budget airlines rely on people booking wellin advance. If they starting offering low fares on the day of travel their business plan would be fucked. Is Euromanx classed as a "budget airline" then? I just thought they were an ordinary airline that had reasonable prices. Aer Arann could do it as well. I wasn't thinking about Easyjet or Ryanaire or any of those airlines. Just the local ones from here, perhaps they could lead the way for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lectro Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Is Euromanx classed as a "budget airline" then? Well I've just tried to book with Euromanx for 2 adults to fly to London City midweek in April (11 weeks away) - out on a Wednesday and back on a Thursday... Published Fare - All prices include airport taxes. Total Price GBP 794.00 (inc tax + fees) Price Per Person GBP 358.00 per Adult, tax GBP 30.00 per Adult, fee GBP 9.00 per Adult Well outside my budget and I guess most peoples. Not a budget airline by any stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lectro Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 By comparison I just did a quick check on the BA site for flights at the same time. 2 adults IoM to Tenerife via LGW - Total £ 580.60 Including Taxes 2 Adults IoM to New York via LGW - Total £ 884.20 Including Taxes 2 Adults IoM to Dubai via LGW - Total £ 953.20 Including Taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Is Euromanx classed as a "budget airline" then? Well I've just tried to book with Euromanx for 2 adults to fly to London City midweek in April (11 weeks away) - out on a Wednesday and back on a Thursday... Published Fare - All prices include airport taxes. Total Price GBP 794.00 (inc tax + fees) Price Per Person GBP 358.00 per Adult, tax GBP 30.00 per Adult, fee GBP 9.00 per Adult Well outside my budget and I guess most peoples. Not a budget airline by any stretch of the imagination. Looks a bit very pricy, that.... I've just looked up a flight to Munich in autumn - IOM-LGW/LHR-MUC, going back MUC-LHR/LGW-IOM - £ 177.90 all in, and that's 4 flights in total, with BA! BTW: Is Alpha One operating now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 BTW: Is Alpha One operating now? My work colleague tried to book a couple of flights with them next week and before he could reach the end of the sentence the person who answered said "we havent got any flights at all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 By comparison I just did a quick check on the BA site for flights at the same time. 2 adults IoM to Tenerife via LGW - Total £ 580.60 Including Taxes 2 Adults IoM to New York via LGW - Total £ 884.20 Including Taxes 2 Adults IoM to Dubai via LGW - Total £ 953.20 Including Taxes I always book a few months in advance, Zurich <=> LGW <=> IOM <=> LGW <=> Zurich for April 2006 cost me CHF 652 or about GBP 280. If you use the BA website always look at the legs individually as well as combined, on my last visit I saved a bundle by booking Zurich <=> LGW and LGW <=> IOM as two tickets rather all together. IMHO BA runs an excellent service from my point of view, my first choice cariier. The prices you quote are not at all bad considering the stiff increases in fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 By comparison I just did a quick check on the BA site for flights at the same time. 2 adults IoM to Tenerife via LGW - Total £ 580.60 Including Taxes 2 Adults IoM to New York via LGW - Total £ 884.20 Including Taxes 2 Adults IoM to Dubai via LGW - Total £ 953.20 Including Taxes I always book a few months in advance, Zurich <=> LGW <=> IOM <=> LGW <=> Zurich for April 2006 cost me CHF 652 or about GBP 280. If you use the BA website always look at the legs individually as well as combined, on my last visit I saved a bundle by booking Zurich <=> LGW and LGW <=> IOM as two tickets rather all together. IMHO BA runs an excellent service from my point of view, my first choice cariier. The prices you quote are not at all bad considering the stiff increases in fuel. The EuroStinks prices you quote are absurd though, that's not a service at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I could get back to the IoM from Warsaw in April with BA at 218GBP return. (WAW-LHR-LGW-IOM) Or for 103GBP return with Wizz Air and Aer Arann (WAW-LPL-IOM). Both fares include taxes. Flying has never been this cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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